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00:00:39,120 paranormal mysteries here in lovely 16 00:00:44,569 --> 00:00:41,730 Liverpool today my guest is a friend 17 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:44,579 David Young who I came across a few 18 00:00:50,510 --> 00:00:47,520 years ago at the beginning of something 19 00:00:53,450 --> 00:00:50,520 that I started as snowballed into 20 00:00:56,060 --> 00:00:53,460 something so massive now and that was 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:56,070 the Larry Warren fraud investigation 22 00:01:01,430 --> 00:00:58,770 I've alluded to this a few times on this 23 00:01:03,979 --> 00:01:01,440 show but I haven't actually spoken in 24 00:01:05,719 --> 00:01:03,989 any way shape or form about it I 25 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:05,729 certainly haven't gone into any detail 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:11,520 just brief passing mentions but I have 27 00:01:14,330 --> 00:01:12,930 some new evidence that I'm going to be 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:14,340 bringing out in their next couple of 29 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:16,290 weeks well over the next couple of weeks 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:20,520 and so I thought before we got into all 31 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:23,130 of that but I would do a little recap 32 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:27,390 for for those who followed the saga I 33 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:30,119 shall call it and for those who've never 34 00:01:34,690 --> 00:01:32,159 heard of it because I know that I've got 35 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:34,700 a few people who listen to the show 36 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:39,000 unfamiliar with my research and all the 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:41,430 other things that I get up to because 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:43,170 they've found me through the show so 39 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:44,810 this is for you guys 40 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:48,509 hi David welcome to the show not speak 41 00:01:54,590 --> 00:01:52,950 to you and to sweetie so well yeah 42 00:01:59,569 --> 00:01:54,600 because in the beginning it wasn't like 43 00:02:01,280 --> 00:01:59,579 that was it darling no I don't think we 44 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:01,290 were enemies ever I think we were sort 45 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:03,119 of fun there are different different 46 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:04,729 understandings of how things were 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:09,239 definitely yeah I actually thought I was 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:10,890 a very suspicious of you because you 49 00:02:13,170 --> 00:02:12,330 were talking to everybody and nobody 50 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:13,180 never does 51 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:15,340 and I thought you were just being like a 52 00:02:19,619 --> 00:02:17,920 snake in the grass but actually what you 53 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:19,629 were doing was talking to everybody 54 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:21,489 because that's the sensible thing to do 55 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:22,860 trying again 56 00:02:30,690 --> 00:02:27,310 I still do that now yeah but I got I 57 00:02:32,339 --> 00:02:30,700 took you wrong you know a lot of people 58 00:02:34,890 --> 00:02:32,349 took me wrong as well there's been a lot 59 00:02:37,649 --> 00:02:34,900 of healing that's gone on over the past 60 00:02:41,399 --> 00:02:37,659 three years through all this drama but 61 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:41,409 yeah because in the beginning well what 62 00:02:46,289 --> 00:02:42,730 I'll do is I'll start the beginning for 63 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:46,299 the listeners is Larry Warren claims to 64 00:02:50,119 --> 00:02:47,889 be the whistleblower of the Rendlesham 65 00:02:55,410 --> 00:02:50,129 forest incident which happened in 66 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:55,420 Suffolk in 1980 next to the twin bases 67 00:02:59,580 --> 00:02:57,370 Bentwaters Woodbridge but it was closer 68 00:03:01,979 --> 00:02:59,590 to Bentwaters and was in Rendlesham 69 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:01,989 forest itself I've heard lots of people 70 00:03:06,929 --> 00:03:04,720 say all kinds of things about not 71 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:06,939 happening because of being on the base 72 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:09,519 and all the rest of it but actually it 73 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:11,230 didn't happen on the base it happened 74 00:03:16,259 --> 00:03:12,790 off the base so I just want to get that 75 00:03:19,619 --> 00:03:16,269 out of the way so it was a series of 76 00:03:21,809 --> 00:03:19,629 events that were very unusual and they 77 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:21,819 happened over the Christmas weekend they 78 00:03:29,149 --> 00:03:25,870 involved various people on the base all 79 00:03:32,729 --> 00:03:29,159 different ranks and the first night was 80 00:03:35,069 --> 00:03:32,739 mainly Jim Penniston and John Burroughs 81 00:03:36,449 --> 00:03:35,079 there was at cabin side but he's he 82 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:36,459 doesn't speak so we'll just talk about 83 00:03:41,009 --> 00:03:38,650 you know a refer to Jim and John because 84 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:41,019 they're in the public eye they both have 85 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:42,729 very different ideas about what went on 86 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:45,310 that night and they don't talk to each 87 00:03:54,539 --> 00:03:51,729 other as far as are now Jim was the lead 88 00:03:56,789 --> 00:03:54,549 in in the lead birth of their party he 89 00:04:00,599 --> 00:03:56,799 went forward he saw this objects on the 90 00:04:02,099 --> 00:04:00,609 ground and you can tell he drew the 91 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:02,109 symbols that were on the side of it this 92 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:04,060 thing it was a like a black pyramidal 93 00:04:08,909 --> 00:04:06,250 DeltaWing objects it was on the ground 94 00:04:12,030 --> 00:04:08,919 and it had these strange hieroglyphics 95 00:04:13,939 --> 00:04:12,040 on the side are these symbols which Jim 96 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:13,949 wrote down in his notebook now I 97 00:04:19,140 --> 00:04:16,570 completely believe all of that bit 98 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:19,150 because when you look at the diagrams 99 00:04:24,060 --> 00:04:21,940 that he drew you can tell how much his 100 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:24,070 hands are shaking they were actually all 101 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:26,490 straight edged but when you look at them 102 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:28,110 can tell you hands were shaking so he 103 00:04:32,089 --> 00:04:30,720 was you know full of adrenaline shall we 104 00:04:34,570 --> 00:04:32,099 say I'm going to say frightened but I 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:34,580 think possibly you would be I you know 106 00:04:40,370 --> 00:04:38,250 and John was kind of between him and the 107 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:40,380 vehicle was ed was at the vehicle and 108 00:04:43,580 --> 00:04:41,910 they were kind of like shouting 109 00:04:45,710 --> 00:04:43,590 instructions to each other that's the 110 00:04:48,969 --> 00:04:45,720 basis of the first night the second 111 00:04:53,290 --> 00:04:48,979 night involved we as far as we all know 112 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:53,300 lieutenant sampling she had a blue light 113 00:04:58,909 --> 00:04:57,240 the entered their vehicle and she 114 00:05:01,820 --> 00:04:58,919 completely freaked out about this as you 115 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:01,830 watch there's some talk of her losing a 116 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:04,639 firearm in the forest and actually 117 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:09,210 having opened fire on this thing again I 118 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:11,759 don't know how true all of that is this 119 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:13,740 is stuff that's just been said so 120 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:16,710 there's no documentation or anything the 121 00:05:23,230 --> 00:05:20,610 third night was when Colonel halt 122 00:05:27,379 --> 00:05:23,240 where's officers do was Christmas 123 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:27,389 somebody went into the party where they 124 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:29,280 all were and told him that the UFO was 125 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:33,360 back so he left the party went and got 126 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:36,780 changed grabbed his dictaphone and when 127 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:38,310 they've met but with everybody else he 128 00:05:42,649 --> 00:05:40,080 grabbed a few bits of equipment and then 129 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:42,659 they went out to look for it they walked 130 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:46,110 miles and came across the most 131 00:05:54,170 --> 00:05:52,440 incredible sights there were something 132 00:05:56,719 --> 00:05:54,180 that was shooting beams down from the 133 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:56,729 sky there was lights going through the 134 00:06:03,620 --> 00:05:58,530 trees there was a big red light that 135 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:03,630 looked like a winking eye the the event 136 00:06:08,779 --> 00:06:05,909 was recorded on Colonel Holt's 137 00:06:10,820 --> 00:06:08,789 dictaphone there's about 18 minutes of 138 00:06:12,890 --> 00:06:10,830 tape but people think that's been edited 139 00:06:15,559 --> 00:06:12,900 down I don't know about I haven't asked 140 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,569 him I don't know if anybody has or if 141 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:18,000 he's ever admitted to that I'll walk 142 00:06:21,249 --> 00:06:19,620 don't know what the situation is there 143 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:21,259 but somebody said there were four hours 144 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:26,130 would take no idea if that's true so 145 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:28,319 that's the basis of everything Larry 146 00:06:34,430 --> 00:06:30,810 Oren reckons he was there that third 147 00:06:35,810 --> 00:06:34,440 night but he was on cable green where as 148 00:06:38,779 --> 00:06:35,820 Colonel Hall 149 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:38,789 Adrian bas dinza and John Burroughs were 150 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:40,290 a different area 151 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:42,960 all together yet Larry Warren claims to 152 00:06:45,020 --> 00:06:44,490 have been with Adrienne bas DeAnza all 153 00:06:47,780 --> 00:06:45,030 night 154 00:06:49,850 --> 00:06:47,790 now Larry Warren and I been friends 155 00:06:51,290 --> 00:06:49,860 since 2007 when I met him at a 156 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:51,300 conference and we hit it off straight 157 00:06:56,350 --> 00:06:53,880 away were both bonkers both like a laugh 158 00:06:59,300 --> 00:06:56,360 and we were friends from there on in 159 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:59,310 went to Devon for a week you know some 160 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:02,400 several times stayed in touch online we 161 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:04,020 lived in different cities I lived in 162 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:05,880 Leeds he lived in Liverpool but when I 163 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:06,870 moved to Liverpool 164 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:09,000 you know the visits became more frequent 165 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:11,640 and then eventually he ended up staying 166 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,760 with us for four months because he'd 167 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:16,800 made himself homeless and he was in a 168 00:07:20,930 --> 00:07:19,560 financial state and we know as good 169 00:07:23,810 --> 00:07:20,940 friends we let him come and stay with us 170 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:23,820 and it was during that time there I 171 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:25,800 noticed that he kept changing elements 172 00:07:28,970 --> 00:07:27,690 of the story which were very important 173 00:07:31,190 --> 00:07:28,980 elements they weren't just little ones 174 00:07:33,340 --> 00:07:31,200 but at the time there was somebody who 175 00:07:39,290 --> 00:07:33,350 was interested in making a film about 176 00:07:41,630 --> 00:07:39,300 what happened to Larry specifically and 177 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:41,640 so the rewrites cited to happen to my 178 00:07:43,850 --> 00:07:43,410 face now I've read his book left at 179 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:43,860 Eastgate 180 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:46,650 and I'd listened to him tell his story 181 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:48,150 over and over and over again because 182 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:51,240 he's completely saturated with it and I 183 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:54,440 assumed all of that to be like the PTSD 184 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:57,570 reaction but now I understand that it's 185 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:00,120 just his temper because his lies are 186 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:01,770 catching up with him when he first 187 00:08:05,810 --> 00:08:04,110 started all of this he never imagined 188 00:08:07,070 --> 00:08:05,820 that the internet would ever exist and 189 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:07,080 his book was written and published 190 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:09,240 before the advent of the internet and 191 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:11,940 since then everybody well not everybody 192 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:14,100 obviously quite a lot of people I've 193 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:14,850 sussed him out 194 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:17,040 Georgina Bru nicest amount Brenda Butler 195 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:20,310 original civilian investigator in 196 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:22,140 Suffolk tossed him out she's never 197 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:23,910 believed he was there I just believed 198 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:26,250 that brenda was mistaken and now I have 199 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:28,050 to concede that she was absolutely right 200 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:30,930 and the way that I found out was because 201 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:34,410 Larry Warren's ex-girlfriend at the time 202 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:38,070 on base in 1980 was involved in the 203 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:42,510 incidents and she told me that he wasn't 204 00:08:48,170 --> 00:08:45,030 there he wasn't involved he was in his 205 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:48,180 dorm and at the bar when they got back 206 00:08:52,370 --> 00:08:50,850 from being out there and being involved 207 00:08:54,710 --> 00:08:52,380 and he immediately 208 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:54,720 I was angry that he'd missed out on the 209 00:08:58,850 --> 00:08:57,420 big show started running around on the 210 00:09:01,730 --> 00:08:58,860 base talking so everybody who was 211 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:01,740 involved or who wasn't involved gleaning 212 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:03,510 as much as he could from these people 213 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:05,730 and writing himself immediately into the 214 00:09:10,490 --> 00:09:08,640 narrative saying that he was there but 215 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:10,500 what had happened was was Adrian boss 216 00:09:14,330 --> 00:09:12,630 DeAnza was involved but he was with 217 00:09:14,810 --> 00:09:14,340 Colonel Hall and John Burroughs all 218 00:09:23,390 --> 00:09:14,820 night 219 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:23,400 and he done this radio show I think I'm 220 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:25,430 not sure when it was maybe January in 221 00:09:31,790 --> 00:09:29,610 2015 and it's called 222 00:09:33,950 --> 00:09:31,800 on the on youtube if you wish to listen 223 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:33,960 to this it's Adrian Boston's a full 224 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:35,820 radio interview on Rendlesham forest 225 00:09:41,690 --> 00:09:38,730 incident the youtuber is Rodney McKay 226 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:41,700 and the full interview is on there and 227 00:09:47,060 --> 00:09:44,370 that is where you will hear if you know 228 00:09:49,220 --> 00:09:47,070 left at Eastgate and you know the story 229 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:49,230 in there and you know Larry Warren's 230 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:51,210 narrative when you listen to that show 231 00:09:56,990 --> 00:09:54,210 you will hear Adrian bust in sir tell 232 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:57,000 you Larry Warren's narrative in its 233 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:01,200 entirety so after Larry had been kicked 234 00:10:07,730 --> 00:10:03,090 out for being a complete nightmare in 235 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:07,740 our house I eventually got ran to listen 236 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:09,090 to this show that had been recorded 237 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:12,240 while he was still here but while he was 238 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:13,650 here he never talks about anything else 239 00:10:16,130 --> 00:10:15,450 I didn't want to hear it I just wasn't 240 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,140 interested 241 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:19,200 I was absolutely drowning in my own life 242 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:20,790 and my situation as we'd gone bankrupt 243 00:10:24,980 --> 00:10:22,980 we'd moved house that's grown benefits 244 00:10:27,650 --> 00:10:24,990 all this kind of stuff and we had Larry 245 00:10:30,140 --> 00:10:27,660 Warren living as withers before during 246 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:30,150 and after for a little while 247 00:10:38,060 --> 00:10:35,850 so when it all blew up I decided to 248 00:10:40,250 --> 00:10:38,070 listen to this radio show and my jaw was 249 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:40,260 on the floor that is when I realized 250 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:43,820 that Larry Warren had completely stolen 251 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Adrian bust in tzer's account now he 252 00:10:53,410 --> 00:10:49,170 told me while he was living with me one 253 00:11:02,000 --> 00:10:58,150 excuse me that he'd actually absorbed 254 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:02,010 Adrian bust in tzer's account where he'd 255 00:11:05,870 --> 00:11:04,130 been taken to an underground base and 256 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:05,880 debriefed 257 00:11:08,809 --> 00:11:07,410 the underground base doesn't exist he'd 258 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:08,819 never actually said that that was 259 00:11:11,749 --> 00:11:10,889 something that he done it in but he was 260 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:11,759 debriefed 261 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:13,769 so Larry said that he thought that he 262 00:11:17,660 --> 00:11:15,569 was really important that that part of 263 00:11:20,269 --> 00:11:17,670 the story be told so he decided to tell 264 00:11:24,319 --> 00:11:20,279 it for him so that Adrian didn't have to 265 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:24,329 come public so if this has been said 266 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:26,610 before but I was completely brain blind 267 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:28,470 I believed left at Eastgate didn't want 268 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:30,480 to read anything else and when I did I 269 00:11:34,730 --> 00:11:32,790 was in a you know the wrong frame of 270 00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:34,740 mind to do so I was already dismissing 271 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:37,560 it before I had so I decided that I 272 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:38,790 couldn't live with this guy's lies 273 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:40,860 inside me because I don't even tell my 274 00:11:46,579 --> 00:11:44,250 own lies and I decided to tell people 275 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:46,589 and that is when everything exploded it 276 00:11:51,499 --> 00:11:47,250 went crazy 277 00:11:53,150 --> 00:11:51,509 I got a threat from him in November 2015 278 00:11:55,610 --> 00:11:53,160 which I didn't even find so the 279 00:12:00,499 --> 00:11:55,620 following February that said you're 280 00:12:04,309 --> 00:12:00,509 effed best move bias that triggered me I 281 00:12:07,129 --> 00:12:04,319 went crazy on the internet I shouted and 282 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:07,139 carried on and then I started to 283 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:09,240 investigate him that's when I started to 284 00:12:14,329 --> 00:12:11,370 look at the show and I said Larry Warren 285 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:14,339 wasn't there he stole his account and so 286 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:18,000 many people were really really hating on 287 00:12:23,660 --> 00:12:20,970 me but then at the other side of that 288 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:23,670 coin there was a lot of people who were 289 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:24,329 helping me 290 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:28,290 and in between there was Alison Dunlop 291 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:31,529 and David Young and you know a couple of 292 00:12:35,090 --> 00:12:33,689 other people who were all supportive of 293 00:12:37,850 --> 00:12:35,100 Larry because he was going to be 294 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:37,860 speaking at the SBI conference that year 295 00:12:42,019 --> 00:12:39,240 in Scotland 296 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:42,029 now I said I'm going to go and I'm going 297 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:44,399 to ask him this question why is Adrian 298 00:12:48,290 --> 00:12:45,420 Costanza's 299 00:12:50,329 --> 00:12:48,300 story exactly the same as Larry Warren's 300 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:50,339 including the memory I've taken a 301 00:12:55,220 --> 00:12:52,470 particular kind of camera off a person 302 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,230 and remembering it had a big M on it 303 00:12:58,699 --> 00:12:57,360 probably for Motorola or something like 304 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:58,709 you know I don't know the names of 305 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:00,240 cameras but it was a he said it looks 306 00:13:04,309 --> 00:13:01,050 expensive 307 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:04,319 and I thought Larry said though that's 308 00:13:10,189 --> 00:13:07,410 in his book so I just knew it I just 309 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:10,199 knew it and I had to tell people so then 310 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:12,569 the investigation started and I started 311 00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:15,769 to find other bits of information and 312 00:13:18,889 --> 00:13:17,670 all the things that you've been getting 313 00:13:23,359 --> 00:13:18,899 up to we 314 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:23,369 were memorabilia fraud fortunes are 315 00:13:27,710 --> 00:13:25,680 memorabilia etc so I started to bring 316 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:27,720 all that out now people say what's that 317 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:30,980 got to do with Rendlesham forest well 318 00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:33,480 nothing is the answer to that question 319 00:13:37,549 --> 00:13:35,160 but it's got everything to do with the 320 00:13:41,059 --> 00:13:37,559 kind of man that he is and that was what 321 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:41,069 I was trying to get across in that time 322 00:13:45,379 --> 00:13:42,689 it would fallen out with everybody 323 00:13:47,359 --> 00:13:45,389 practically that our new and made 324 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:47,369 friends of people that I hadn't 325 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:50,850 previously known and obviously my like 326 00:13:59,960 --> 00:13:54,240 long-term friends and supporters they 327 00:14:01,910 --> 00:13:59,970 were there with me so I reported these 328 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:01,920 threats of the police they reported me 329 00:14:05,119 --> 00:14:03,569 to the police it was a bit - enough 330 00:14:06,739 --> 00:14:05,129 rowing like that but the police don't 331 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:06,749 want to get involved in arguments on the 332 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:07,970 Internet 333 00:14:16,129 --> 00:14:13,410 so eventually through all the RG bad you 334 00:14:18,379 --> 00:14:16,139 read the conference that Larry ended up 335 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:18,389 being banned from in Glasgow from the 336 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:23,490 SBI conference Alison Dunlop then had to 337 00:14:28,189 --> 00:14:25,649 concede that she'd been wrong about Lori 338 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,199 and she issued a statement which 339 00:14:35,179 --> 00:14:31,199 basically covered all of that and what 340 00:14:37,429 --> 00:14:35,189 had gone on and that unfortunately there 341 00:14:40,509 --> 00:14:37,439 you know she had to accept that what I 342 00:14:43,249 --> 00:14:40,519 was saying was true and that is when 343 00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:43,259 David and I started talking again isn't 344 00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:47,040 it David bring you into it I mean I can 345 00:14:51,169 --> 00:14:49,230 say that it that was when I first 346 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:51,179 realized something was very wrong about 347 00:14:56,269 --> 00:14:52,920 the club when I wait to the Glasgow 348 00:14:57,980 --> 00:14:56,279 conference when I got there I saw I know 349 00:15:00,619 --> 00:14:57,990 I never knew I didn't know it was home 350 00:15:03,319 --> 00:15:00,629 that so Larry had been banned when I 351 00:15:05,689 --> 00:15:03,329 arrived at the doorway basically he was 352 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:05,699 standing leaning against the car and I 353 00:15:09,259 --> 00:15:07,410 walked over to him and I said what's 354 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:09,269 going on there he said oh I've been 355 00:15:15,710 --> 00:15:13,649 banned you know and of course I don't 356 00:15:17,389 --> 00:15:15,720 think I knew about it anyway because I 357 00:15:18,829 --> 00:15:17,399 was actually saying well how bad is that 358 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:18,839 her power leads to treat you like that 359 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:21,809 you know and everything and I you know 360 00:15:25,220 --> 00:15:23,490 one or two other people will walk it up 361 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:25,230 and saying much the same type of thing 362 00:15:31,309 --> 00:15:28,860 and I think he's intention of toning up 363 00:15:32,199 --> 00:15:31,319 there was actually to get Peter to stand 364 00:15:34,869 --> 00:15:32,209 down and 365 00:15:36,129 --> 00:15:34,879 back him up that's my that's my I mean I 366 00:15:38,619 --> 00:15:36,139 don't know a few fields it that was 367 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:38,629 probably the same you know no because if 368 00:15:44,319 --> 00:15:39,769 they're a band 369 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:44,329 did Ben Hamlin Jones did a vlog of the 370 00:15:49,359 --> 00:15:46,730 event and they were all in the car and 371 00:15:52,419 --> 00:15:49,369 he and Larry said that he was going to 372 00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:52,429 get to speak they went anyway because he 373 00:15:55,629 --> 00:15:54,079 thought that once he got there he'd be 374 00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:55,639 able to talk to people and say look 375 00:16:02,350 --> 00:15:58,970 she's just crazy it's not bad and you 376 00:16:05,049 --> 00:16:02,360 know and ended up being able to speak be 377 00:16:07,389 --> 00:16:05,059 even victory screw me right well it 378 00:16:08,169 --> 00:16:07,399 wasn't me you I've been banned no no I 379 00:16:10,329 --> 00:16:08,179 understand that 380 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:10,339 and anyway after sort of telling me oh 381 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:13,730 happy retreat yeah the kaabah City 382 00:16:18,970 --> 00:16:15,410 conference with Pete's are doing it on 383 00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:18,980 his own I was one of one or two people 384 00:16:23,319 --> 00:16:20,689 invited for a drink in the evening with 385 00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:23,329 with dairy and still hearing the story 386 00:16:28,439 --> 00:16:25,369 about oh I bet he's been treated and you 387 00:16:31,569 --> 00:16:28,449 know it was only a couple of days after 388 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:31,579 after the event when Allen started 389 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:34,399 releasing all the letters there have 390 00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:36,649 been you know the reasons why that Larry 391 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:39,199 was banned obviously the threats to 392 00:16:45,789 --> 00:16:42,980 yourself and I don't know if anyone else 393 00:16:47,949 --> 00:16:45,799 was threatened but there was so many I 394 00:16:49,780 --> 00:16:47,959 could see that it was lies coming you 395 00:16:50,999 --> 00:16:49,790 know I thought well this is not what I 396 00:16:54,369 --> 00:16:51,009 was hearing for theree 397 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:54,379 and that's why I started really 398 00:16:59,769 --> 00:16:56,569 realizing something was very wrong about 399 00:17:01,600 --> 00:16:59,779 his whole story I mean just before I've 400 00:17:03,730 --> 00:17:01,610 gone to the truth conference a little 401 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:03,740 while before that and they would say he 402 00:17:11,649 --> 00:17:08,480 was gonna take me on a Beatles tour even 403 00:17:13,689 --> 00:17:11,659 so we he was hits came by asking his if 404 00:17:16,990 --> 00:17:13,699 Paul McCartney is in town you'll 405 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:17,000 introduce me at that time I thought yeah 406 00:17:30,159 --> 00:17:27,970 really okay it still sounded a bit term 407 00:17:33,220 --> 00:17:30,169 because he says he but all the people he 408 00:17:35,019 --> 00:17:33,230 hangs up out with everything you know he 409 00:17:37,210 --> 00:17:35,029 told me all them stories as well over 410 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:37,220 the years and there were plausible you 411 00:17:41,730 --> 00:17:39,110 know it didn't tell me that it was a 412 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:41,740 close security bodyguard for John Lennon 413 00:17:45,299 --> 00:17:43,990 know which is what it says now but the 414 00:17:46,919 --> 00:17:45,309 threats that we made yet the glass wood 415 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:46,929 girl conference that well before the 416 00:17:51,090 --> 00:17:48,850 conference to get him banned I'm just 417 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:51,100 gonna read out he said this is the 418 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:52,450 outlaw wait now you got to remember this 419 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:55,150 is because I said I was going to go to 420 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:56,650 the conference and ask him a question 421 00:18:00,419 --> 00:17:58,570 and I put that post on my page and I 422 00:18:03,030 --> 00:18:00,429 spoke to Malcolm and I said I'll gladly 423 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:03,040 give you the question beforehand you 424 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:05,320 know it can be vetted that question can 425 00:18:10,530 --> 00:18:07,210 be asked of him I don't even have to ask 426 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:10,540 you basically he said this is the outlaw 427 00:18:15,570 --> 00:18:13,690 way and I'm sorry I have to post I will 428 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:15,580 have family and very close friends at 429 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,400 the venue if you then he puts in 430 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:20,080 brackets whomever because it doesn't 431 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:22,000 want anyone asking the question hmm 432 00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:24,370 makes a move on me others I love 433 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:27,280 understand this I will jump off stage 434 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:29,530 and put your windpipe through your spine 435 00:18:35,070 --> 00:18:32,140 you are a threat at that point and your 436 00:18:38,610 --> 00:18:35,080 life will end really yes prosecutor 437 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:38,620 questions yeah exactly yeah and this is 438 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:41,890 what this is what did it for him yeah he 439 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:44,650 said and faster than venue security 440 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:47,110 could deal with I am telling all this as 441 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:49,510 a public service message he did for your 442 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:52,300 own good but what fantastic PR for the 443 00:18:57,150 --> 00:18:54,070 great Glasgow gig I don't need 444 00:18:59,880 --> 00:18:57,160 protection but if I really did I bring 445 00:19:01,860 --> 00:18:59,890 in my Detroit brother James MA had whom 446 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:01,870 dealt with a similar deal with me and 447 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:04,360 brother Peter Robbins years ago be smart 448 00:19:09,630 --> 00:19:06,850 stay at home on your chicken [\h__\h] 449 00:19:13,910 --> 00:19:09,640 Internet baby so that was the threat 450 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:13,920 that got him banned and he also told 451 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:16,750 Kelly Marie when she tries to question 452 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:18,970 him about this zip it you little nut 453 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:22,090 back oh I lost somebody waiting for you 454 00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:24,370 one day you know like basically if 455 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:25,990 somebody's gonna go and beat up this 456 00:19:29,299 --> 00:19:28,570 Scottish woman for daring to say 457 00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:29,309 anything 458 00:19:37,770 --> 00:19:35,740 so the Hells Angels well you see there's 459 00:19:40,290 --> 00:19:37,780 so many things isn't there to talk about 460 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:40,300 how many lies as the guys hold you know 461 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:42,700 he says the all of their I think that 462 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:45,640 James Moorhead chap who's probably a 463 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:52,510 Hells Angel that he knows and probably 464 00:19:55,170 --> 00:19:54,130 the only one that he knows I don't know 465 00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:55,180 I know I know I know 466 00:20:00,600 --> 00:19:56,830 a few but you certainly never been wrong 467 00:20:03,150 --> 00:20:00,610 we've got that proven so that is a lie 468 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:03,160 that is easy all these threats about his 469 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:04,030 bikers 470 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:06,070 he's reaches long he's gonna threaten 471 00:20:10,650 --> 00:20:07,180 threatened 472 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:10,660 James Welsh with bikers come in series 473 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:16,270 flats you know he's just every time 474 00:20:19,980 --> 00:20:18,490 anybody challenges him with anything we 475 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:19,990 get threatened all the word you win 476 00:20:24,810 --> 00:20:21,610 anyway he's gone very quiet at the 477 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:24,820 moment so that was his that was the 478 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:26,800 threat that actually got him banned from 479 00:20:31,770 --> 00:20:30,400 the SBI conference and it's probably the 480 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:31,780 best thing that ever happened actually 481 00:20:36,090 --> 00:20:34,780 and ultimately but I did want to know 482 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:36,100 what he was going to say because I 483 00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:37,750 didn't know what his current narrative 484 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:40,300 was but the best thing about it all was 485 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:43,330 was that in the gym he was speaking like 486 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:44,980 that flying saucers of London conference 487 00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:47,010 in fire he wasnt in you attended that 488 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:50,710 yes and that's the one where while he 489 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:53,110 was here he had all this memorabilia and 490 00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:55,270 he'd sold some and he was waiting for 491 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:57,070 the money right this is what he told us 492 00:20:59,070 --> 00:20:58,000 he was waiting for the money 493 00:21:00,600 --> 00:20:59,080 little did we know that he'd been 494 00:21:02,910 --> 00:21:00,610 getting it in dribs and drabs and 495 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:02,920 spending it because he'd sold a john 496 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:05,170 lennon sketch to russ quell it for ten 497 00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:08,080 thousand and that was where the exchange 498 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:13,660 happened but I'd wanted Warren to speak 499 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:15,010 at the Glasgow conference because I 500 00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:16,960 really wanted his narrative I wanted to 501 00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:19,720 know what his story was because he's as 502 00:21:22,170 --> 00:21:20,950 far as I knew there were several 503 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:22,180 different versions of different 504 00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:24,370 different bits once I've started looking 505 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:26,350 at other things that have been said in 506 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:30,840 the past and unfortunately there was no 507 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:34,330 recording of the finally one there was 508 00:21:41,130 --> 00:21:37,390 no a video of it at all that hadn't 509 00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:41,140 happened and so I was just kind of like 510 00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:44,260 right okay well I'll muddle on anyway 511 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:47,830 not knowing what his current version of 512 00:21:55,410 --> 00:21:52,960 events was but then not long ago David 513 00:21:59,550 --> 00:21:55,420 you discovered that you had the 514 00:22:02,070 --> 00:21:59,560 recording there was one Sunday afternoon 515 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,080 I remembered I had these because I 516 00:22:07,650 --> 00:22:04,240 usually called a lot of conferences or 517 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:07,660 go to some beware there anyone else is 518 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:08,690 good 519 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:12,530 now adieu record or de corazon ago to us 520 00:22:18,290 --> 00:22:16,170 I've got on that Philae conference which 521 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:18,300 I went to you know I started listening 522 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:20,910 to it I thought good god this is gold 523 00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:22,710 dust you know because there was such a 524 00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:26,100 lot of what I mean at the time I thought 525 00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:27,960 I was taking anybody like a few other 526 00:22:33,140 --> 00:22:29,670 people that are in the audience you know 527 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:33,150 and but sort of I don't know you know 528 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:35,870 since then but a lot of it was absolute 529 00:22:51,170 --> 00:22:45,210 BS you know and like is really special 530 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:51,180 I mean and the Bigfoots the story is 531 00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:53,130 very provable is approvable alive 532 00:22:57,530 --> 00:22:55,470 absolutely you know what we've been kind 533 00:23:00,560 --> 00:22:57,540 of working with isn't that sort of ok 534 00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:00,570 let's let's take stock of his various 535 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:04,350 narratives his lies his life story you 536 00:23:11,420 --> 00:23:08,490 know this thing that he's telling but 537 00:23:16,490 --> 00:23:11,430 when you get he said came up with that 538 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:16,500 it was just like wow remember what 539 00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:18,150 happened at the time well actually but 540 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:20,460 yeah a lot the Facebook posts you can 541 00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:23,910 make yeah Larry Warren says he saw 542 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:26,640 Metallica I think they didn't know where 543 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:28,050 the audio record you know I don't think 544 00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:31,170 it's because he said I never said to 545 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:34,350 making things up yeah yeah so that was 546 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,530 when I left the same post you know up 547 00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:39,600 but put the audio along with it with him 548 00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:46,620 actually saying it he tells that is so 549 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:48,630 perfect is that record room because he 550 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:50,700 hears all this extra stuff that he 551 00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:52,770 throws in because he knows it's not 552 00:23:57,650 --> 00:23:54,360 being recorded he can say whatever he 553 00:24:01,970 --> 00:23:57,660 wants you know and he said for the 554 00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:01,980 listeners benefit that he had co-signed 555 00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:04,980 Metallica and been paid half a million 556 00:24:13,670 --> 00:24:10,380 pounds finest Lee yep so he discovered 557 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:13,680 Metallica yeah and was epic Atlantic 558 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:15,960 Records all in the same paragraph I 559 00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:21,300 think it was 20 years yeah something 560 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:22,380 like that is like every 561 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:23,610 thing he's been ads all these amazing 562 00:24:28,430 --> 00:24:26,370 careers or something so the Metallica 563 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:28,440 thing he said but him and his friend 564 00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:29,970 Richard someone whose name escapes me 565 00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:33,780 this money and got paid half a million 566 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:40,740 each finder's fee rich Carlson also did 567 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:42,990 a quick google and it turns out that 568 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:45,770 this guy called Michael a Largo 569 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:48,810 discovered and signed Metallica no 570 00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:51,770 mention of Larry no mention of Richard 571 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:56,340 no nothing so you know this is one of 572 00:24:59,960 --> 00:24:57,690 the things that we challenged isn't it 573 00:25:02,720 --> 00:24:59,970 yeah that's right and any started saying 574 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,730 about although it wasn't a sit so about 575 00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:04,880 I would meet at Metallica worked for us 576 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:07,740 and it was his little band that he came 577 00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:12,930 up with name and depend and he said his 578 00:25:16,910 --> 00:25:14,430 name is on the back of the credits on 579 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:16,920 the album so obviously we did a search 580 00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:19,410 for the album itself fights warning 581 00:25:27,410 --> 00:25:26,190 fates warning that I had right in trying 582 00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:27,420 to find his name on the back of this 583 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:31,380 album did you think we found it a little 584 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,810 bit more research says but in actual 585 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:35,580 fact Metallica we were around before 586 00:25:40,130 --> 00:25:38,310 fates warning but he chose a story that 587 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:40,140 fates warning were around before and 588 00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:42,810 that Metallica worked for them yeah and 589 00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:44,580 it I mean it's like it's like I've said 590 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:47,430 before Google's been Warren's worst 591 00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:49,890 enemy really because he's told most of 592 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:51,750 his stories before Google came about 593 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:54,630 like you were saying earlier and things 594 00:25:58,580 --> 00:25:56,190 are so easy to sort of she's tracked 595 00:26:00,290 --> 00:25:58,590 down now that's the same you've been D 596 00:26:03,670 --> 00:26:00,300 work as opposed to being in went before 597 00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:07,760 it was sweet sweet Riverbend ensuite 598 00:26:15,050 --> 00:26:10,710 with a band that was at Riverbend now 599 00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:15,060 and he paid for over 3,000 people just 600 00:26:19,220 --> 00:26:17,640 before I know now you think if you were 601 00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:19,230 in a band like that you'd have lots of 602 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:20,820 pictures I mean whenever you see like 603 00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,650 young bands and things you loads of 604 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:25,200 pictures fan pictures and all sorts have 605 00:26:29,030 --> 00:26:26,850 you ever seen any pictures or haven't no 606 00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:29,040 II just I did an internet search I think 607 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:31,320 if the other people did too and trying 608 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:33,000 to find out more about this sweet river 609 00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:35,190 band there is a band called sweet man 610 00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:37,620 Cajun aren't they it's more like Asian 611 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:39,870 baby was putting it over as an Eagles 612 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:43,140 type Bend not quite the same thing you 613 00:26:47,180 --> 00:26:44,790 know and we looked at the venue when he 614 00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:47,190 said he played and it was like a country 615 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:50,940 park a small stage where maybe 50 60 616 00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:52,620 people might have been in the audience 617 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:56,070 you know so it's all sort of all like 618 00:27:01,160 --> 00:26:58,650 that that's you it's so easy to sort of 619 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:01,170 them well to find out for yourself I 620 00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:02,730 mean I encourage anyone out there was a 621 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:04,380 good be listening to this program don't 622 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:06,360 just as what Sarah and I are saying if 623 00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:08,310 you've got the book left at a sky look 624 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:10,140 at bits in it yourself and go I'm 625 00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:11,640 researching because you can't do it 626 00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:12,120 yourself 627 00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:18,600 a lot of lies in there as well hey like 628 00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:20,790 I know it's jumping around a little bit 629 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:25,500 here but in 1979 was when he went inside 630 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:31,050 to join the air force in 1979 he also 631 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:33,090 closed her being at school in England in 632 00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:36,990 Billerica now he makes out it makes it 633 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:39,720 sound like he was here in education for 634 00:27:44,540 --> 00:27:42,720 a year but if you read left escape you 635 00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:44,550 will see that after his little stint in 636 00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:46,980 Billerica Essex that there's a lesson 637 00:27:55,070 --> 00:27:52,200 from the woman's the woman who he stayed 638 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:55,080 with it was like a student exchange she 639 00:28:00,380 --> 00:27:57,650 said to it's an elected to Larry's mom 640 00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:00,390 telling her how lovely her son had been 641 00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:04,200 for the week for a week yeah he's there 642 00:28:13,670 --> 00:28:07,320 in the book yeah he now alludes to being 643 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:13,680 here forever in the finally talk he says 644 00:28:17,470 --> 00:28:15,330 there's a bit where he says that when 645 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:17,480 they were on base and they were being 646 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:20,130 told about the area all the rest of it 647 00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:21,930 what it's like living in England he made 648 00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:23,220 out that it wasn't for him because he'd 649 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:25,020 been here before he'd already lived here 650 00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:26,490 it'd been here for a one week and an 651 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:29,940 exchange hmm so there's little things 652 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:32,340 where there's a little bit of truth to 653 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:35,750 it but everything is wildly exaggerated 654 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:39,990 yeah and if anything he's I know yet old 655 00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:41,490 school he was talking about Mayflower 656 00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:42,900 because I did live in Billerica for a 657 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:45,270 while you know six so it says quite a 658 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:47,510 stranger cross over again 659 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:50,390 bears before I moved to Suffolk yeah and 660 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:55,850 then in that year as well in another it 661 00:29:03,730 --> 00:28:58,480 was a video show radio show with 662 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:03,740 christinageorge and Germans Halldor Gary 663 00:29:13,330 --> 00:29:10,370 Heseltine and field bother ya because he 664 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:13,340 also said in that in in the late 70s 665 00:29:19,810 --> 00:29:15,290 remember he was at school in Berlin 666 00:29:23,230 --> 00:29:19,820 Ricky it was also in school in Albany 667 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:23,240 and he had the summer kicking around 668 00:29:27,370 --> 00:29:26,570 with his friends waiting to go into the 669 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:27,380 Air Force 670 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:32,690 but in this latest video radio show 671 00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:37,400 thing with them and what was I gonna say 672 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:40,780 oh my god me and mascot blank 673 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:43,910 what was it socket about David you were 674 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:45,890 talking talking about you kicking around 675 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:48,050 in the late 70s in Beach Boys I believe 676 00:30:00,610 --> 00:29:54,010 you were going to come to pay on that 677 00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,620 yeah he says that he was pay for the 678 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:02,240 Beach Boys in the late seventies yeah 679 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:03,890 and of course Peter Robbie's knows 680 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:05,690 nothing about all this you know thought 681 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:07,010 you'd a told Peter Robbie's wouldn't you 682 00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:10,370 yeah absolutely because he said that in 683 00:30:16,540 --> 00:30:12,220 that time as well while he was waiting 684 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:16,550 to catch his flight which in the book he 685 00:30:20,890 --> 00:30:18,260 says he goes to the airport with his mom 686 00:30:23,410 --> 00:30:20,900 and he gets his flight in his new 687 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,420 narrative his flights delayed for two 688 00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:26,240 days and he hangs out with John Lennon 689 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:31,100 for two days busy year I mean how 690 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:31,910 amazing is that 691 00:30:36,430 --> 00:30:34,880 yeah and again why isn't that in left 692 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:36,440 Eastgate because it doesn't mention that 693 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:40,190 it's all you so John Lennon dies within 694 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:43,070 yeah well he's at Bentwaters so why 695 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:46,490 doesn't he say oh my friend of my recent 696 00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:47,930 friend that was with a little while ago 697 00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:50,540 has just died it doesn't say that at all 698 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:54,320 yeah no and that's so easy basis our he 699 00:31:00,190 --> 00:30:56,810 starts in August doesn't mean he goes to 700 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:00,200 Lackland in Texas hmm and that's where 701 00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:01,250 he meets Stevie over 702 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:05,030 when he goes to the way out west club so 703 00:31:10,510 --> 00:31:06,710 in that year he was pier to the Beach 704 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Boys he met and hung out with John 705 00:31:15,070 --> 00:31:11,930 Lennon for two days even though John 706 00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:15,080 Lennon spent Thanksgiving and it was the 707 00:31:21,790 --> 00:31:19,550 27th he did a photo shoot Thanksgiving 708 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:21,800 he spent time with Ringo and his wife 709 00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:24,950 and then so that's like the 2728 and 710 00:31:34,990 --> 00:31:32,320 something November sorry and then he's 711 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:35,000 hanging out with Larry an 18 year old 712 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:39,110 kid well we got that famous we got the 713 00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:40,700 famous black and white photo of and we 714 00:31:46,570 --> 00:31:42,380 take it's supposed to be taking a full 715 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:46,580 tuner in New York and he actually names 716 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:48,350 the people the person that took the 717 00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:52,130 photo and where it was taken that was it 718 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:55,280 was Vinnie Irwin who took the picture it 719 00:32:03,640 --> 00:31:58,690 wasn't her and he basically photoshopped 720 00:32:07,270 --> 00:32:03,650 himself or whatever program people at 721 00:32:10,540 --> 00:32:07,280 least a year old man looks at some 722 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:10,550 photographs of him areas a time and I 723 00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:13,760 know that he went to New York when he 724 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:15,350 was 40 because I remember him telling me 725 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:16,880 about that there was a photographs of 726 00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:21,590 him in New York when he was 40 so Nick 727 00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:22,670 Pope said it best 728 00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:26,150 he called him a florid-faced but here 729 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:28,900 I'll really like you know the kind of 730 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:31,310 width of his face and all the recipe 731 00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:33,770 that comes with it does come out with 732 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:39,140 some gems I must say so yeah there's um 733 00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:43,430 in my blogs I think John Lennon sketch 734 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:45,230 mystery ends here or maybe stars in 735 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:46,670 their eyes the adventures of the Larry 736 00:32:49,870 --> 00:32:48,650 Warren and he's doctored photographs 737 00:32:53,380 --> 00:32:49,880 something that was cold 738 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:53,390 so there's photographs that he's 739 00:33:00,480 --> 00:32:56,270 doctored of him with John Lennon him 740 00:33:03,130 --> 00:33:00,490 with Stevie Ray Vaughn him with Yoko Ono 741 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:03,140 there's yeah because there's a yellow 742 00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:04,640 car on a pitch you've got a signature on 743 00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:05,990 there Evan yeah now you can actually 744 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:08,300 Google Yoko Ono signature and and 745 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:09,710 compare it with Larry's on that pitch 746 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:14,080 nothing alike it's similar but 747 00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:16,450 leans he leans it forward where she 748 00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:21,520 leans backwards drink them 749 00:33:29,130 --> 00:33:26,200 so yeah December 1980 was just an 750 00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:29,140 amazing month for Warren because then he 751 00:33:35,850 --> 00:33:31,900 ended up at Bentwaters on the 1st of 752 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:35,860 December and twenty five six days later 753 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:37,690 claims were being involved in the 754 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:43,120 biggest ui5 and this contrary but you 755 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:45,430 know as we've already said his 756 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:47,290 girlfriend cookie she said that he 757 00:33:54,210 --> 00:33:48,910 wasn't there there's lots of other bits 758 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:54,220 that allude to that there's so much to 759 00:34:04,770 --> 00:33:58,450 cover oh one other James's Aston Martin 760 00:34:09,419 --> 00:34:04,780 you so he's 18 years old and he's got an 761 00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:09,429 Aston Martin how likely is that and he 762 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:17,470 packed up on base who I'm sorry I bet 763 00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:19,300 you've got a life you're living with the 764 00:34:25,890 --> 00:34:23,560 Stars actually laughing at the people 765 00:34:29,490 --> 00:34:25,900 the reading the reading that book really 766 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:29,500 it's I know I'm as guilty I took it you 767 00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:31,450 know ready twice and also he's really 768 00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:33,190 sort of a fascinating book but when you 769 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:37,060 start reading it and in hindsight after 770 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:39,220 knowing a lot about the lawyers and 771 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:41,169 things you can see straight through most 772 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:45,550 of it it's just complete it is 773 00:34:50,850 --> 00:34:46,240 embarrassing 774 00:34:53,730 --> 00:34:50,860 yeah so Phil for Peter Robbie's because 775 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:53,740 he he was obviously the biggest yeah the 776 00:35:00,600 --> 00:34:56,290 PSone taken him boy he put so thirty 777 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:00,610 years yeah back in Warren up and you 778 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:03,130 know and then sort of and and going by 779 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:06,190 story and obviously is it to him it must 780 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:09,370 feel like you know I mean obviously I'm 781 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:10,510 what I made if they've obviously 782 00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:12,910 traveled around a bit and but but when 783 00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:15,760 you when it's backed up by alloys it 784 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:20,500 sort of becomes like a force oh no I 785 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:22,210 think I'd be really embarrassed about it 786 00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:24,310 you know I don't quite know how to 787 00:35:30,050 --> 00:35:26,630 describe how it must feel 788 00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:30,060 it's ridiculous isn't it so I'm just 789 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:34,200 looking at me notes again here and it 790 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:37,980 this is the incredible thing because you 791 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:41,280 know it calls himself an expert a US Air 792 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:45,300 Force veteran and he was actually in the 793 00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:49,410 US Air Force from start to finish all of 794 00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:53,220 his all of his career in the US Air 795 00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:57,780 Force from start to finish was for 134 796 00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,370 days yeah 797 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:00,960 it was just under ten months was 798 00:36:07,210 --> 00:36:05,100 nineteen weeks he was in the Air Force 799 00:36:09,650 --> 00:36:07,220 so he could have only just basically 800 00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:09,660 finished his basic training really if he 801 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:11,550 did finish it at all well I don't think 802 00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:14,940 he did you know because that dr. Eccles 803 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:17,580 sheet is blatantly being tampered with 804 00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:20,490 it's been tip xed oh yeah so he's got 805 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:21,840 this piece of paper that says that he 806 00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:24,090 went to see this doctor Eccles at 807 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:26,520 Lakenheath in the February I think and 808 00:36:34,070 --> 00:36:32,730 it says opti ret burn now this is in the 809 00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:34,080 book and it looks fine 810 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:35,550 it looks just like a photocopied sheet 811 00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:37,230 but when you see the other sheet where 812 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,700 he's been taken from its tip xed no I 813 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:43,680 was sent that it's a standard version of 814 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:46,290 it and I do believe it was from Georgina 815 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:52,050 Brunei's Bruni's collection so a hundred 816 00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:55,190 and thirty four days and he's now being 817 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:00,420 peddled as a retired veteran when yeah I 818 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:02,370 think it's also important to mention 819 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:05,810 that dr. Eccles was not on the Thurman 820 00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:14,700 and what he said was he bumped into 821 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:17,190 Steve the plume there and Steve with Lou 822 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:19,890 has told me this himself that he said 823 00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:21,690 that he was there because the problem 824 00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:23,640 with his wrists that hadn't been picked 825 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,420 up in training and that he was getting 826 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:30,240 out on a disability and that disability 827 00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:32,510 being that he couldn't fire his weapon 828 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:34,680 properly because of the problem with his 829 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:37,250 wrist so he didn't as far as I'm 830 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:38,970 concerned 831 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,690 he didn't pass his weapons training and 832 00:37:46,819 --> 00:37:44,720 rather than just practice and get good 833 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:46,829 it's something wrong with him are 834 00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:48,210 there's something wrong with the 835 00:37:54,609 --> 00:37:50,520 situation you know it's not him it's not 836 00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:54,619 his fault it's a disability you know 837 00:38:02,240 --> 00:37:59,040 yeah he says he go out on a dd-214 re - 838 00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,250 for him if you research that he's he 839 00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:04,640 says in the book that code didn't exist 840 00:38:08,809 --> 00:38:07,950 it's a yes you win you've only yourself 841 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:08,819 for sir 842 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:11,400 code list it says breach of in these 843 00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:13,470 enlistment and real isn't agreement 844 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:15,480 that's what he comes under that code 845 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:18,210 yeah I mean anyone can research that 846 00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:20,790 yourself outside you know but in the 847 00:38:27,650 --> 00:38:24,020 book he apparently at code doesn't exist 848 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:27,660 yeah and he says that is am I think he 849 00:38:34,609 --> 00:38:29,400 says in the book that the CIA I've got 850 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:34,619 is military records and in now he's 851 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:37,890 narrative is that it's NSA that I've got 852 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:41,760 it so I found out that you can actually 853 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:47,119 apply for anybody's basic records 854 00:38:54,339 --> 00:38:51,450 doesn't tell you much but what I got 855 00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:54,349 back was an almost instant response 856 00:39:01,339 --> 00:38:58,380 saying that his military records are 857 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:01,349 there and they're available for him to 858 00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:04,440 apply for if he so wishes or if he gives 859 00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:05,910 permission anybody else 860 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,280 couldn't get them so they're not with 861 00:39:16,579 --> 00:39:10,560 the CIA the NSA there's nothing special 862 00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:16,589 about his records you know I think John 863 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,030 Burroughs are still trouble okay an 864 00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:20,160 artist isn't a but eventually I don't 865 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:24,540 getting disability so why isn't Warren 866 00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:26,089 trying to get that same disability 867 00:39:34,099 --> 00:39:30,599 John's helping other witnesses so what's 868 00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:34,109 wrong with Larry yeah apparently opti 869 00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:40,200 Ratburn well he optical retinal burn but 870 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:43,710 then in the Chuck de Caro CNN video 871 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:45,930 which is also on YouTube he's a CNN 872 00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:49,170 documentary about Rendlesham he says 873 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:50,460 that none of them were hurt by this 874 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:51,800 craft 875 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:55,610 yeah remember seeing that so every 876 00:39:59,340 --> 00:39:57,050 single thing that you says there's two 877 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:03,340 you don't mean yeah I'm interested to 878 00:40:06,850 --> 00:40:05,090 see what's gonna come out and this this 879 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:06,860 film where if it ever does come out the 880 00:40:10,570 --> 00:40:09,110 capable green film which version they're 881 00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:10,580 going to go with because one way or the 882 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:12,830 other it's going to cause the quite a 883 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:14,330 few arguments I think anyway 884 00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:17,210 well where people when people start said 885 00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:19,340 well cuz I mean this point like this his 886 00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:20,750 story's gotta be the same as it was in 887 00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:24,040 left a skate surely the kind of change 888 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:26,270 you don't have to experience he's only 889 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:29,450 had the one well in the trailers that 890 00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:31,250 they've got for the film Carol green now 891 00:40:38,530 --> 00:40:34,910 there are four aliens when there were 892 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:38,540 only three allegedly yeah but there's 893 00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:40,750 only him that's seen the aliens and the 894 00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:43,790 bubbles the first time that he remembers 895 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,270 our talks about those aliens was in a 896 00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:49,520 hypnosis session that it did with a guy 897 00:40:52,510 --> 00:40:51,830 called fred max which he admitted to 898 00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:52,520 faking 899 00:40:58,270 --> 00:40:54,470 and if you read you can't tell the 900 00:41:00,760 --> 00:40:58,280 people by Georgina Brunei you will see 901 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:00,770 that in there he says that he admitted 902 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:02,690 to me he admitted to faking it and 903 00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:04,250 that's the first time he ever mentions 904 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:06,470 aliens I think that's really important 905 00:41:12,210 --> 00:41:08,870 you know eat the first time he talks 906 00:41:14,530 --> 00:41:12,220 about aliens is in effect hypnosis yeah 907 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:14,540 well they did make a statement he's 908 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:16,730 never mentioned aliens but aliens I 909 00:41:21,460 --> 00:41:18,950 mention quite a few times in left escape 910 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:21,470 actual fact yeah I know cuz he's done 911 00:41:28,450 --> 00:41:23,870 this polygraph test doesn't he to prove 912 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:28,460 himself the liar of well the liar of his 913 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:31,130 life which is a bit open to question as 914 00:41:34,990 --> 00:41:32,900 we found as well well this is that 915 00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:35,000 because you did some research into the 916 00:41:43,930 --> 00:41:39,230 people who conduct said that polygraph 917 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:43,940 tin yeah yeah patty music ro and Barry 918 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:48,820 tests it was that there was actually 919 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:51,170 there was actually a fraud report put 920 00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:53,930 out against that particular person and 921 00:42:01,160 --> 00:41:57,520 and the company and I do believe that 922 00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:01,170 when trying to form the I little more 923 00:42:05,269 --> 00:42:03,480 yes patty music Caro offers cut-price 924 00:42:07,609 --> 00:42:05,279 law detector test there will always be 925 00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:07,619 other examiner's to get work this is a 926 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:09,829 concern as you get what you pay in life 927 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:15,119 and it says in this report it says she 928 00:42:18,890 --> 00:42:17,010 falsely claims her experience for police 929 00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,900 and security forces in the USA 930 00:42:23,089 --> 00:42:21,359 we know this he fabricated lies all of 931 00:42:25,279 --> 00:42:23,099 the organization she is claimed to work 932 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:25,289 for have their own examiners in claim to 933 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:27,410 know nothing about petty music or rope 934 00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:30,660 and it says further it says to examine 935 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:32,339 carefully and not one whose background 936 00:42:39,740 --> 00:42:37,529 is based on lies and fraud so that's the 937 00:42:43,339 --> 00:42:39,750 that's the expert are used in the film 938 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:43,349 is quite funny because and say and they 939 00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:46,170 actually call her UK's leading polygraph 940 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:49,920 examiner which is not true no because 941 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:51,990 it's not mommy anyway if you do a search 942 00:42:55,279 --> 00:42:52,650 on it now 943 00:42:57,710 --> 00:42:55,289 look I looked into the actual accounts 944 00:43:00,620 --> 00:42:57,720 for the for the company their total 945 00:43:03,859 --> 00:43:00,630 liabilities were four point three K 946 00:43:06,769 --> 00:43:03,869 fruit three eight K the total s sorry 947 00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:06,779 you know only a debt ratio was seventy 948 00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:09,180 two point nine one percent then their 949 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:12,630 assets were one point six three k but 950 00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:14,250 there are total liabilities were four 951 00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:21,720 four point three K so yeah I mean how 952 00:43:32,329 --> 00:43:24,480 you could be the top researcher in the 953 00:43:34,220 --> 00:43:32,339 UK and that financial because some of 954 00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,230 the tests I mean when you go to a proper 955 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:36,000 person they cost like a couple of 956 00:43:43,819 --> 00:43:39,950 thousand it's not like Oh in a garage 957 00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:43,829 botched job now for people who have 958 00:43:48,049 --> 00:43:45,240 listened to all of my shows you know 959 00:43:50,569 --> 00:43:48,059 that when I spots a cows Clark who is a 960 00:43:54,099 --> 00:43:50,579 witness to the pendrick incident she 961 00:43:58,279 --> 00:43:54,109 approached Gary hustle sign with a 962 00:44:02,170 --> 00:43:58,289 Lafayette five thousand polygraph which 963 00:44:05,269 --> 00:44:02,180 she'd had to jump through hoops to get 964 00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:05,279 she took three polygraphs and she went 965 00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,049 to Gary Heseltine with these polygraphs 966 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:09,119 and he rejected them and told her to go 967 00:44:14,359 --> 00:44:12,089 to party at Veritas he would have 968 00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:14,369 accepted that but not the one that she 969 00:44:19,609 --> 00:44:15,119 paid for 970 00:44:23,059 --> 00:44:19,619 to far from the actual top polygraph 971 00:44:25,579 --> 00:44:23,069 test in this country now what I have to 972 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:25,589 say here as well is that they don't 973 00:44:32,539 --> 00:44:30,569 detect lies they detect dress so you 974 00:44:34,849 --> 00:44:32,549 know you can actually put yourself in a 975 00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:34,859 place where you're not stressed 976 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:36,990 I mean I've learnt how to do it through 977 00:44:42,589 --> 00:44:39,660 all of this you know because as you know 978 00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,599 yourself when you've been attacked by 979 00:44:47,749 --> 00:44:45,240 endless people it becomes very stressful 980 00:44:49,579 --> 00:44:47,759 my blood pressure went up collapse a 981 00:44:50,930 --> 00:44:49,589 couple of times ended up in hospital it 982 00:44:58,329 --> 00:44:50,940 was all a good joke for them they 983 00:45:03,920 --> 00:44:58,339 thought that was hilarious so it's like 984 00:45:05,749 --> 00:45:03,930 she's been out a few times okay I have 985 00:45:07,660 --> 00:45:05,759 to not care about these people I have to 986 00:45:10,489 --> 00:45:07,670 not care about them saying these things 987 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:10,499 otherwise I'm gonna get parley you know 988 00:45:17,539 --> 00:45:14,970 and I've learned how to kind of not let 989 00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:17,549 it inside if you know what I mean so if 990 00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,079 I can get to that state when I'm being 991 00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:22,079 like bashed about by God knows how many 992 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:24,150 people who was telling everybody that 993 00:45:29,509 --> 00:45:25,890 I'm mentally ill and that I'm a drug 994 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:29,519 addict who abuses her children and lives 995 00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:33,690 in filth and he's a Larry Warren fanatic 996 00:45:39,049 --> 00:45:36,599 and I'm just a fatal attraction is just 997 00:45:42,049 --> 00:45:39,059 a fatal attraction and all of that stuff 998 00:45:44,479 --> 00:45:42,059 that they said all of them they wanted 999 00:45:46,549 --> 00:45:44,489 me to be so a malfunctioning that I 1000 00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:46,559 couldn't speak and wouldn't speak and 1001 00:45:50,329 --> 00:45:48,329 [\h__\h] was chased off the scene that's 1002 00:45:50,930 --> 00:45:50,339 what they tried to do Gary Heseltine did 1003 00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:50,940 that as well 1004 00:45:55,460 --> 00:45:53,460 Gary Heseltine calling me saying it's a 1005 00:45:57,940 --> 00:45:55,470 fatal attraction thing I'm just a body 1006 00:46:00,499 --> 00:45:57,950 boiler basically is what it's saying 1007 00:46:02,210 --> 00:46:00,509 when I'll jump in here I'll beam up into 1008 00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:02,220 your house I'll see now they'll use up 1009 00:46:06,410 --> 00:46:03,900 the kids and they're well they're treat 1010 00:46:08,779 --> 00:46:06,420 there must say love you and and how I 1011 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:08,789 mean Dave spends all this time but you 1012 00:46:14,029 --> 00:46:12,450 both do you dote on those cats and for 1013 00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:14,039 them to be saying stuff like that I 1014 00:46:20,029 --> 00:46:15,680 think he's absolutely disgusting I 1015 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,039 really do I mean I really makes my blood 1016 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,319 ball hit her when I when actually saw 1017 00:46:26,539 --> 00:46:24,480 what what they were saying 1018 00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:26,549 and and what I actually saw for myself 1019 00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:29,630 you know and they just completely 1020 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:32,220 well you know it's uh it wasn't 1021 00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:33,690 explosives to me about I mean I just 1022 00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:36,750 received the men men a bit but you know 1023 00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,540 like I can't do everything because of 1024 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:41,400 the physical problems that I've got you 1025 00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:43,650 know meaning so Dave does pick up the 1026 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:45,960 slack a lot and he does a lot with the 1027 00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:47,730 kids you know we got together and there 1028 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:49,260 was no parties he never thought he'd be 1029 00:46:55,340 --> 00:46:52,290 a dad so you know he done some poppy and 1030 00:46:57,710 --> 00:46:55,350 um you know my son as well and they and 1031 00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:57,720 they go out on the do a lot he's 1032 00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:01,380 brilliant he's a brilliant dad I've seen 1033 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:03,030 the post he's always he's always doing 1034 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:04,770 something they're taking her out and 1035 00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:07,170 about and you can see she's a happy 1036 00:47:13,820 --> 00:47:07,830 little kid 1037 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:13,830 she's you soon know if anyone was being 1038 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,890 abused yeah yeah well this is an 1039 00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:18,720 interesting thing that you say as well 1040 00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:23,280 because you know when he was living here 1041 00:47:28,370 --> 00:47:26,670 I didn't know this but he was watching 1042 00:47:30,410 --> 00:47:28,380 porn in the living room with my daughter 1043 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:30,420 in the living room and she was so 1044 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:32,160 freaked out by that she slept with a 1045 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:33,410 knife under her bed 1046 00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,610 you know I mean I didn't know this until 1047 00:47:41,090 --> 00:47:38,400 afterwards I didn't know and about any 1048 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:41,100 of that but so you know it's not me it 1049 00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:43,610 was the abuser it's not me it was there 1050 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,200 you know making my kids feel 1051 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:49,440 uncomfortable quite the opposite but 1052 00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,250 yeah so that and that is what they told 1053 00:47:59,090 --> 00:47:55,740 everybody at the conference in Scotland 1054 00:48:01,940 --> 00:47:59,100 that you know this drug addled lunatic 1055 00:48:04,850 --> 00:48:01,950 and that I actually love Laurie and I 1056 00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:04,860 moved him in here with Dave mmm and 1057 00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:06,980 that's the best offense 1058 00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:10,950 mmm I mean obviously a few of us were 1059 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:12,540 actually taken in by that we were we'll 1060 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:14,490 saw we thought I was telling the truth 1061 00:48:21,740 --> 00:48:18,090 eh but as I said we will know very 1062 00:48:23,390 --> 00:48:21,750 differently now most of us you know our 1063 00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:23,400 dear old Chris do you remember you 1064 00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:25,280 remember Chris who died years ago 1065 00:48:33,580 --> 00:48:29,790 almost almost of the day it was probably 1066 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:33,590 a week or so ago he died two years ago 1067 00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:36,510 we were often talking about you and the 1068 00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:39,060 Warrens situation and then the firma 1069 00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:42,030 gone as well and quite often I used to 1070 00:48:45,799 --> 00:48:42,630 say Oh 1071 00:48:47,870 --> 00:48:45,809 no talking about you but saying that I 1072 00:48:49,579 --> 00:48:47,880 think session makes a lot of stuff up 1073 00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:49,589 you know I'm studying it now because I 1074 00:48:52,009 --> 00:48:50,940 told you I've said though I'm not saying 1075 00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:52,019 anything different though I haven't said 1076 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:54,180 before and Chris used to sell she's 1077 00:48:58,759 --> 00:48:56,490 alright and everything and then he you 1078 00:49:00,970 --> 00:48:58,769 know then he sort of I don't know it 1079 00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:00,980 tries to swing me around and I'll say yo 1080 00:49:05,299 --> 00:49:03,990 warrants you know I thought go along 1081 00:49:09,319 --> 00:49:05,309 with the warran story and everything 1082 00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,329 anyway and when Chris died at that time 1083 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:12,240 and we had that barbecue at the at the 1084 00:49:16,490 --> 00:49:14,970 east gate in in his memory base in his 1085 00:49:18,890 --> 00:49:16,500 honor because that was his favorite 1086 00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:18,900 place and then we started getting all 1087 00:49:26,140 --> 00:49:23,190 those awful comments from war about we 1088 00:49:30,349 --> 00:49:26,150 were insulted his brothers everything 1089 00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,359 yeah he come back and I sort of fired 1090 00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:32,400 back I said well he's got absolutely 1091 00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:34,440 nothing I thought to do with you we were 1092 00:49:38,029 --> 00:49:36,390 doing this for him because it was his 1093 00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,039 favorite place he's got nothing at all 1094 00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:40,079 to do we you you don't own he's gained 1095 00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:43,049 as as a place you know but he was 1096 00:49:46,819 --> 00:49:44,400 totally calling all the people together 1097 00:49:48,140 --> 00:49:46,829 there lot of scam and he's holding these 1098 00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,150 brothers and God knows what else and 1099 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:51,599 that is when I basically went to what 1100 00:49:56,690 --> 00:49:53,910 was I won't say we went to war with it 1101 00:49:59,779 --> 00:49:56,700 but that's when I really want you to get 1102 00:50:02,120 --> 00:49:59,789 involved and join you and we started 1103 00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:02,130 talking more about everything didn't we 1104 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:04,380 and you started showing me more stuff 1105 00:50:08,779 --> 00:50:07,170 and it was then I started realizing that 1106 00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:08,789 what you were saying was actually true 1107 00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:11,819 you know I know and I know you now I 1108 00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:13,950 don't think you could lie if you wanted 1109 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:16,470 to right the way I know you now and also 1110 00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:18,089 debt so anyone out there who's listening 1111 00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:19,140 who doesn't know setia 1112 00:50:23,539 --> 00:50:22,950 I would trust her anything she says I 1113 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:23,549 would trust 1114 00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:25,890 yeah I mean we're not gonna be seen I 1115 00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:34,319 thought I owned absolutely but on this 1116 00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:36,660 particular day I know that she believes 1117 00:50:42,349 --> 00:50:39,960 exactly what she says and she doesn't 1118 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:42,359 she wouldn't allow a [\h__\h] about anything 1119 00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,890 so he's I wouldn't I mean I don't see 1120 00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:45,839 the point in yeah you know because 1121 00:50:50,839 --> 00:50:47,099 because he's gonna come back and bite 1122 00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:50,849 you in the bum at some point you know 1123 00:50:56,890 --> 00:50:53,400 and also we've got no careers to look 1124 00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:56,900 after these people 1125 00:51:02,089 --> 00:50:59,220 they're feathery in their own nest in 1126 00:51:04,609 --> 00:51:02,099 this story with the story all we're 1127 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:04,619 doing is trying to that's especially 1128 00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:06,510 Sasha he's just trying to expose the 1129 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:10,440 lies that simple yeah because you know 1130 00:51:14,359 --> 00:51:13,050 like I said before I don't like I'm not 1131 00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:14,369 gonna I don't like because I don't want 1132 00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,840 to carry lies in me and I'm certainly 1133 00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:17,460 not going to carry anybody else's and I 1134 00:51:20,109 --> 00:51:18,900 think he thought that I won't I think 1135 00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:20,119 your missionary when he first started 1136 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,440 you know it's not saying that Adrienne 1137 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:25,680 it's adopted Adrienne story and then he 1138 00:51:31,730 --> 00:51:30,240 told me that What did he say didn't 1139 00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,740 happen they care for greenie somewhere 1140 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:33,119 they didn't happen on careful greenness 1141 00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:35,010 as I got mixed up it happened at the 1142 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:37,320 other side and I was like this is one 1143 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:38,730 part other stuff that he was rewriting 1144 00:51:44,839 --> 00:51:41,970 when somebody was interested in making a 1145 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,849 film and then he also said that he got 1146 00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:47,040 the memo out and he got the tape out the 1147 00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:50,369 Hult saying yes to my face in my own 1148 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:52,460 Herman and I'm saying to Dave 1149 00:51:56,330 --> 00:51:54,930 he's completely changing everything now 1150 00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:56,340 that these films come about he's gonna 1151 00:51:58,370 --> 00:51:57,990 be the Larry Warren show if he gets his 1152 00:52:00,020 --> 00:51:58,380 way 1153 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:00,030 Brenda was quite convinced that he was 1154 00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:02,010 going to get his own way as well you 1155 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:06,780 know because he got all this kind of 1156 00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:09,690 support from people but you know a lot 1157 00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:12,780 of us pushed him forward into the public 1158 00:52:17,089 --> 00:52:15,599 eye I don't even know how many radio 1159 00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:17,099 shows when he was doing nothing I 1160 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:22,140 remember Iko on phenomenon magazine or 1161 00:52:29,089 --> 00:52:24,690 Katy PF maybe I'm not sure which one 1162 00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:29,099 Katy PF I think it was on the 1163 00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:30,780 anniversary of it he was at our house 1164 00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:33,390 and not doing any radio shows nobody had 1165 00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:35,940 wanted to talk to him and Steve Mira 1166 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:37,260 said something that says what the bloody 1167 00:52:41,980 --> 00:52:38,910 hell does Steve Mira now about Larry 1168 00:52:44,270 --> 00:52:41,990 Warren's life and so he ended up like 1169 00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:44,280 talking to him talking to them on this 1170 00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:47,609 on their show because you know and that 1171 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:50,940 pushed him forward loads when that time 1172 00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:53,130 when Colonel Holt well on the Jimmy 1173 00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:56,220 Church sure seen Larry Warren was a drug 1174 00:53:01,370 --> 00:52:58,250 addict and we had it on good authority 1175 00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:01,380 so I told Larry this and then I ended up 1176 00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,089 getting him on the Germont Aldo show 1177 00:53:10,029 --> 00:53:05,280 where I called Chuck 1178 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,589 laughed in his face basically about what 1179 00:53:18,289 --> 00:53:14,640 a ridiculous money is and all the rest 1180 00:53:22,579 --> 00:53:18,299 of it which you know I've apologized for 1181 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:22,589 it's okay all in good humor but you know 1182 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:27,119 if that was me I did that it's amazing 1183 00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,730 well Chuck no Chuck I say Chuck knows he 1184 00:53:33,799 --> 00:53:31,920 understands why people were taking him 1185 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:33,809 by war and he's you know he he knows 1186 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:36,450 he's extended in front of you it tells 1187 00:53:43,099 --> 00:53:39,770 you a good story it takes people in a 1188 00:53:45,470 --> 00:53:43,109 very friendly and joking and very 1189 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:45,480 convincing in these stories but it's 1190 00:53:49,279 --> 00:53:46,890 actually when you actually get to know a 1191 00:53:52,450 --> 00:53:49,289 little bit about Oren you get to you 1192 00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:52,460 know and you actually need to actually 1193 00:53:59,410 --> 00:53:55,710 know I'm not doing well when you were 1194 00:54:04,250 --> 00:53:59,420 nowhere near the way you knew him but I 1195 00:54:06,589 --> 00:54:04,260 just I just know but you do get a little 1196 00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:06,599 bit of knowledge about him and how 1197 00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:09,510 anyone such as Gary has a time and these 1198 00:54:14,779 --> 00:54:12,480 other friends can actually sit there and 1199 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:14,789 take it there all I can say is they're 1200 00:54:19,819 --> 00:54:17,010 complete idiots or they're after 1201 00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:19,829 something else well I think with some of 1202 00:54:24,410 --> 00:54:21,180 them it's all that kind of bros before 1203 00:54:27,049 --> 00:54:24,420 hos mentality because Tina mogera 1204 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:27,059 done this show with him this interview 1205 00:54:31,549 --> 00:54:29,730 where he asks Larry all of these 1206 00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:31,559 questions that we wanted to ask him 1207 00:54:35,210 --> 00:54:33,240 apart from the John Lennon one apart 1208 00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:35,220 from the Hells Angels things you know 1209 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:38,520 heat he did ask him all the right 1210 00:54:43,370 --> 00:54:40,410 questions and he asked him about 1211 00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:43,380 Metallica now we know Michael allaha 1212 00:54:50,180 --> 00:54:46,079 sign Metallica a film was made about the 1213 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:50,190 guy we know how all that happened so 1214 00:54:54,019 --> 00:54:52,049 we've called him out for saying him and 1215 00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,029 his friend Richard got half a million 1216 00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:56,880 each so on this show when Tina asks him 1217 00:55:03,039 --> 00:54:59,760 about this question he goes oh what 1218 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:03,049 these people do what I actually said was 1219 00:55:08,779 --> 00:55:06,450 my friend Richard got paid a million and 1220 00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:08,789 I should have got half of it because I 1221 00:55:14,359 --> 00:55:12,960 introduced them to him best or what but 1222 00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:14,369 it's obviously not what he said though 1223 00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:15,599 is it because we've got the audience 1224 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:16,260 okay 1225 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:20,130 but the point is is that that's still a 1226 00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:22,770 lot of crap and we already know and has 1227 00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:23,460 been said him 1228 00:55:30,460 --> 00:55:26,190 public and proven in public michael--ah 1229 00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:30,470 lago is the guy who sang metallica 1230 00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:33,140 discovered them sign them you know 1231 00:55:39,230 --> 00:55:38,550 whatever he's the guy so it's just 1232 00:55:42,110 --> 00:55:39,240 ludicrous 1233 00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:42,120 that is told one lie I told a different 1234 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:45,620 lie but around the same kind of story 1235 00:55:50,540 --> 00:55:48,570 when the truth is and and he no didn't 1236 00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,550 do anything he didn't say well who's 1237 00:55:55,610 --> 00:55:53,040 Michael a lager then and how does he fit 1238 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:55,620 into this it just went okay next 1239 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:00,000 question you know like that's it you 1240 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:02,490 know it was almost pointless doing that 1241 00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:05,370 show it's like okay there it's not the 1242 00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:07,020 Beach Boys but the Dennis Wilson thing 1243 00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:13,080 isn't it in being six foot is that your 1244 00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:13,800 father 1245 00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:17,040 Oh what these people you see what they 1246 00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:17,640 do 1247 00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:20,520 I was there because I knew him you know 1248 00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:23,940 I was there I know it looks like well I 1249 00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:30,960 think probably not actually so I'm 1250 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:33,710 thinking some of the otherwise he told 1251 00:56:39,380 --> 00:56:37,290 but as far as they the big thought one 1252 00:56:43,310 --> 00:56:39,390 is a good one yeah there's four 1253 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:43,320 different versions of that the 100 where 1254 00:56:48,310 --> 00:56:46,410 he told me that for the author was an 1255 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:48,320 area yeah it's the most fantastic 1256 00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:51,090 Bigfoot sorry never when he gets he gets 1257 00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,400 it with book waste seeds look Bigfoot 1258 00:56:59,900 --> 00:56:55,200 and I solder only chases after a deer 1259 00:57:01,940 --> 00:56:59,910 and rips it apart it's not even got his 1260 00:57:04,850 --> 00:57:01,950 feet on the floor and it's really in it 1261 00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:04,860 like Phil 30 40 50 miles an hour 1262 00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:06,660 whichever version you listening reading 1263 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,020 and it he's like it catches the deer it 1264 00:57:18,350 --> 00:57:12,480 breaks its back and takes a bite out of 1265 00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:18,360 it all in midair I presume yeah I've got 1266 00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:19,950 that recorded on my YouTube in it they 1267 00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:24,420 fancy put it under comedy I didn't do 1268 00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:28,110 that they could hear but well I've heard 1269 00:57:34,490 --> 00:57:31,740 is and I can't give you my sauce is that 1270 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:34,500 actually it was his mom who had a 1271 00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:35,930 Bigfoot so um 1272 00:57:40,299 --> 00:57:38,329 well this is the guy I think I know you 1273 00:57:42,970 --> 00:57:40,309 source who says that you can remember 1274 00:57:47,170 --> 00:57:42,980 when JFK got shot and he was 2 years old 1275 00:57:50,970 --> 00:57:47,180 oh yeah yes losing his hair and his mom 1276 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:50,980 stomped on all the presence in her shock 1277 00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:53,450 walking sua's the TV II don't remember 1278 00:58:00,130 --> 00:57:56,480 that well he's probably not near 61 1279 00:58:12,670 --> 00:58:00,140 I mean when was Kennedy 63 over 63 so 1280 00:58:15,549 --> 00:58:12,680 it'd have been just under 2 oh no you 1281 00:58:18,970 --> 00:58:15,559 just don't know where to go next with 1282 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:18,980 you well so either we have established 1283 00:58:22,839 --> 00:58:21,170 that is alike but Gary Heseltine says 1284 00:58:27,609 --> 00:58:22,849 there's no proof that he's lying and 1285 00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:27,619 then puts our which is absolutely so 1286 00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:30,049 makes copies well this is it because he 1287 00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:31,910 sees an ex transplant police by the way 1288 00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:35,000 people but he he used to tell people 1289 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:38,270 that he was CID that Stefan something 1290 00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,690 with CID and he also said that he had 1291 00:58:49,690 --> 00:58:46,880 this post up I'm gonna just quickly find 1292 00:58:58,079 --> 00:58:49,700 it because I want to read it because he 1293 00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:00,370 is it the response to neat Pope's 1294 00:59:08,529 --> 00:59:05,089 comments well he says that no no no it 1295 00:59:11,769 --> 00:59:08,539 was the a10 photo that all right now I 1296 00:59:12,970 --> 00:59:11,779 put out some images and said that 1297 00:59:15,329 --> 00:59:12,980 there's something wrong with all this 1298 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:15,339 blah blah blah been a million germs 1299 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:17,690 discovered a reflection in one of them 1300 00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:20,089 and they tries to say that it was me or 1301 00:59:26,109 --> 00:59:23,359 Nick Pope but their needs said that this 1302 00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:26,119 was the inner - yeah with the yeah they 1303 00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:27,710 said that we're looking for a man in 1304 00:59:33,789 --> 00:59:30,559 with shark grey hair glasses a pointy 1305 00:59:36,099 --> 00:59:33,799 nose and chain on his wrist and tattoos 1306 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:36,109 okay so you just described Larry Warren 1307 00:59:40,539 --> 00:59:37,849 but you know obviously and the 1308 00:59:43,450 --> 00:59:40,549 reflection of the camera what mother was 1309 00:59:46,539 --> 00:59:43,460 was it an altar or something they can't 1310 00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,549 call no nickel yeah so then they're 1311 00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,839 going on about this photo 1312 00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:49,760 I spoke to Barry Greenwood 1313 00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:51,140 was who the person that I got these 1314 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:53,500 photos from and he wrote clear intent in 1315 01:00:01,150 --> 00:59:57,650 1983 with Larry Fossett they interviewed 1316 01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:01,160 Larry Warren and dismissed him as you 1317 01:00:07,090 --> 01:00:04,609 know he admitted that he lied basically 1318 01:00:07,950 --> 01:00:07,100 so they didn't want anything to do with 1319 01:00:12,940 --> 01:00:07,960 him 1320 01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:12,950 so the 810 photo so the Larry produces 1321 01:00:17,859 --> 01:00:15,200 this photograph because I've got this 1322 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:17,869 picture and there's no UFO above it now 1323 01:00:21,940 --> 01:00:20,210 in the eighth and the photo that Larry's 1324 01:00:25,630 --> 01:00:21,950 peddling he's got the little UFO above 1325 01:00:27,010 --> 01:00:25,640 it isn't it yeah so that's the one that 1326 01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:27,020 was putting out there for somebody to 1327 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:31,550 find the UFO wasn't the original copy 1328 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:33,140 has got square edges but then he 1329 01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:35,330 produces this copy and it's got rounded 1330 01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:38,240 edges and it produces oh I found it in 1331 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:40,070 the box of stuff at his ex-wife's house 1332 01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:43,130 and then obviously even the original 1333 01:00:47,380 --> 01:00:45,560 photograph his color and the picture 1334 01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:47,390 that he's peddling around it was black 1335 01:00:52,450 --> 01:00:47,990 and white 1336 01:00:55,210 --> 01:00:52,460 so Gary had to concede and he said have 1337 01:00:57,940 --> 01:00:55,220 you ever told a lie perhaps a white lie 1338 01:01:00,520 --> 01:00:57,950 I doubt that any adult alive who was 1339 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:00,530 never told to lie in their life the 1340 01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:02,930 question is why did you lie and is the 1341 01:01:06,790 --> 01:01:04,790 former police special a specialist 1342 01:01:09,810 --> 01:01:06,800 police interviewer believe me there are 1343 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:09,820 many genuine reasons why some people lie 1344 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:13,970 at times I wonder how many UFO 1345 01:01:17,620 --> 01:01:15,890 enthusiasts have been left up for their 1346 01:01:19,230 --> 01:01:17,630 beliefs and have chosen to say nothing 1347 01:01:21,550 --> 01:01:19,240 or lie about their interest 1348 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:21,560 unfortunately in life things are not 1349 01:01:25,390 --> 01:01:23,510 always black and white they are filled 1350 01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:25,400 with gray well how ironic when we're 1351 01:01:28,660 --> 01:01:26,510 talking about a black and white 1352 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:28,670 photograph that should be in color so he 1353 01:01:32,770 --> 01:01:30,770 does know that he's lied he's saying now 1354 01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:32,780 there's no evidence of any lies apart 1355 01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:34,070 from all of the evidence that I've 1356 01:01:39,730 --> 01:01:37,910 provided no of course yeah this room is 1357 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:39,740 awesome sure I've just had you found a 1358 01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:41,690 latent picture and it was a there's a 1359 01:01:46,330 --> 01:01:44,480 comment here from Jim Weber Zane it says 1360 01:01:48,790 --> 01:01:46,340 someone with Photoshop could really 1361 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:48,800 enhance that there's that picture and 1362 01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:51,770 paint French best I can do he said he's 1363 01:01:55,660 --> 01:01:53,510 the one that sent it looks like he's the 1364 01:01:57,340 --> 01:01:55,670 one that enhanced their picture and then 1365 01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:57,350 bent Benham Lynn Jones comes along he 1366 01:02:01,090 --> 01:01:58,850 says thanks for doing that and French 1367 01:02:03,099 --> 01:02:01,100 yes something very papal about the image 1368 01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:03,109 and this was in January 1369 01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:05,599 January 15 well you know that must have 1370 01:02:12,339 --> 01:02:08,960 been quite sure what year it was to be 1371 01:02:14,499 --> 01:02:12,349 in there at 2015 and French been Amy 1372 01:02:16,539 --> 01:02:14,509 Jones it does look like Pope and the 1373 01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:16,549 same point you nose and glasses but it's 1374 01:02:22,809 --> 01:02:21,380 nothing like you can see a little thingy 1375 01:02:28,660 --> 01:02:22,819 over and I probably put the glasses out 1376 01:02:29,799 --> 01:02:28,670 on a foot um on his face but you know 1377 01:02:32,819 --> 01:02:29,809 they were trying to say it was me they 1378 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:32,829 have definitive proof that I'd I'd 1379 01:02:39,460 --> 01:02:35,450 tampered with this picture I have 1380 01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:39,470 definitive proof it was me and accuse me 1381 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:41,359 of tampering with his military records 1382 01:02:46,509 --> 01:02:43,970 and he accused Peter of tampering with 1383 01:02:47,979 --> 01:02:46,519 his military record yeah I mean that the 1384 01:02:49,150 --> 01:02:47,989 big thing is there that he says that 1385 01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:49,160 they had been tampered with 1386 01:02:55,809 --> 01:02:53,119 exactly yeah but when and then he said 1387 01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:55,819 that you know well I would say well show 1388 01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:57,410 us the copies that you've got now then 1389 01:03:02,200 --> 01:02:59,839 show was what you've got now and then 1390 01:03:05,259 --> 01:03:02,210 we'll sit and point out where it's been 1391 01:03:07,180 --> 01:03:05,269 changed by us and he couldn't do it and 1392 01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:07,190 then I wouldn't do it because obviously 1393 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:10,430 they've been no difference so we were 1394 01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:13,130 quite naive at the beginning but we 1395 01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:15,710 thought well somebody could look at this 1396 01:03:19,420 --> 01:03:18,079 handwriting and to figure out that the 1397 01:03:23,950 --> 01:03:19,430 same person has written all these 1398 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:23,960 different things and we go we set up a 1399 01:03:29,499 --> 01:03:27,170 GoFundMe didn't weigh 600 pounds because 1400 01:03:32,229 --> 01:03:29,509 we read that it was just under 600 so 1401 01:03:34,569 --> 01:03:32,239 that's you know as used of China of 1402 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:34,579 robbery people yeah we raised them on 1403 01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:39,200 the in 10 days and I went to quite a few 1404 01:03:43,569 --> 01:03:41,119 places and they all said no we can't do 1405 01:03:44,979 --> 01:03:43,579 this we'll need the originals so we sort 1406 01:03:46,450 --> 01:03:44,989 of like put that out there we need the 1407 01:03:48,549 --> 01:03:46,460 originals come on we'll pay for it 1408 01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:48,559 put your money we'll put out everyone 1409 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:50,720 else's money where your mouth is no 1410 01:03:54,670 --> 01:03:52,880 chance not letting it out and say well 1411 01:03:56,589 --> 01:03:54,680 what about if you choose the person that 1412 01:03:58,210 --> 01:03:56,599 is sending to you send them so we don't 1413 01:04:01,210 --> 01:03:58,220 even need to have anything to do with 1414 01:04:04,779 --> 01:04:01,220 them get it all analyzed and we'll pay 1415 01:04:07,930 --> 01:04:04,789 for it and you know surely if you are 1416 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:07,940 not a liar then all of this is going to 1417 01:04:10,749 --> 01:04:09,170 come back great and we're going to look 1418 01:04:11,499 --> 01:04:10,759 ridiculous and we were paid to look 1419 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:11,509 ridiculous 1420 01:04:15,609 --> 01:04:13,210 where was having none of it was they 1421 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:15,619 yeah how many could have anything could 1422 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:16,970 they could have only done him good could 1423 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:18,650 you know I mean I think if it was me and 1424 01:04:25,809 --> 01:04:21,760 I wanted to prove something there you go 1425 01:04:28,540 --> 01:04:25,819 yeah so instead of doing that and he 1426 01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:28,550 went to a solicitor didn't they and he 1427 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:34,220 he you know supposedly well he did he 1428 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:37,250 did he went to a solicitor and he we all 1429 01:04:40,690 --> 01:04:39,290 got letters didn't we telling he says 1430 01:04:43,180 --> 01:04:40,700 stop talking about him because we were 1431 01:04:45,370 --> 01:04:43,190 ruining his memorabilia business so 1432 01:04:48,670 --> 01:04:45,380 which I replied what memorabilia 1433 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:48,680 business we also we all phoned him up 1434 01:04:54,430 --> 01:04:51,050 anyways yeah and and I think he's boss 1435 01:04:59,230 --> 01:04:54,440 got a bit upset well I said I sent in 1436 01:04:59,680 --> 01:04:59,240 some evidence and I said you know he's 1437 01:05:02,260 --> 01:04:59,690 lying 1438 01:05:03,609 --> 01:05:02,270 and no I won't shut up because all of 1439 01:05:05,620 --> 01:05:03,619 this is a lie and he doesn't have a 1440 01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:05,630 business and I explained to him because 1441 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:07,910 he said for the past 18 months and I 1442 01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:09,650 said now it's not 18 months it's 18 1443 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:13,420 months since mayor pang said that the 1444 01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:15,890 sketch that is sold for ten thousand 1445 01:05:21,460 --> 01:05:19,190 pounds was not done by John Lennon 1446 01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:21,470 I said that's 18 months since then and 1447 01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,390 all I've done is repeat that news which 1448 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:25,520 it was news because it was in Wales 1449 01:05:32,109 --> 01:05:30,050 online news outlet online so how could I 1450 01:05:33,819 --> 01:05:32,119 be in trouble and now can i how is it me 1451 01:05:35,410 --> 01:05:33,829 who's ruined his memorabilia business 1452 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:35,420 when all I'm doing is repeating what 1453 01:05:42,790 --> 01:05:38,810 somebody else has said yeah yep so that 1454 01:05:44,589 --> 01:05:42,800 was but then you see Laurie says things 1455 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:44,599 like oh they harass my solicitor and he 1456 01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:47,530 had to block him no it costs at least 1457 01:05:54,670 --> 01:05:53,150 150 pounds per letter to be read by a 1458 01:05:56,170 --> 01:05:54,680 solicitor they charge you for everything 1459 01:05:57,309 --> 01:05:56,180 they do they don't just read things in 1460 01:05:58,900 --> 01:05:57,319 Carl that's not important I'm not 1461 01:06:01,740 --> 01:05:58,910 charging no this is a charge for that 1462 01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:01,750 and he sent them out so far of us and I 1463 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:05,180 found out that a consultation for a 1464 01:06:08,890 --> 01:06:06,890 solicitor for this kind of thing is 1465 01:06:10,329 --> 01:06:08,900 2,000 pounds just for the consultation 1466 01:06:13,329 --> 01:06:10,339 never mind 1467 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:13,339 they letters each and then reading 1468 01:06:18,819 --> 01:06:16,010 responses from far people you talking 1469 01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:18,829 maybe even 5,000 there and he would 1470 01:06:26,740 --> 01:06:24,160 rather then take out 600 pounds and 1471 01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:26,750 maybe even you know think oh yeah 1472 01:06:30,550 --> 01:06:29,119 actually I've got some money now I can 1473 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:30,560 pay some of my own documents 1474 01:06:36,310 --> 01:06:34,210 and prove to them that I'm not a thing 1475 01:06:39,220 --> 01:06:36,320 that would be a way to go wouldn't it 1476 01:06:41,110 --> 01:06:39,230 yeah I mean he did say that he says it 1477 01:06:44,980 --> 01:06:41,120 was a friend of his so maybe he had some 1478 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:44,990 sort of discount you think but we do I 1479 01:06:48,730 --> 01:06:46,730 do know that when I phoned that I spoke 1480 01:06:50,770 --> 01:06:48,740 to the boss and I don't think he wasn't 1481 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:50,780 very happy at all and whether the I 1482 01:06:56,350 --> 01:06:52,970 can't me what the name I can't remember 1483 01:06:58,180 --> 01:06:56,360 what the company was now but he wasn't 1484 01:07:01,540 --> 01:06:58,190 very happy and soon after that we were 1485 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:01,550 all blocked because we were harassing 1486 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:04,970 them and we were because it wasn't gonna 1487 01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:06,650 read any more of the letters that was 1488 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:10,220 what the thing was so I'm gonna tell you 1489 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:12,410 I don't know his name but I did write a 1490 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:20,890 blog about Kakinada fail by Warren 1491 01:07:30,790 --> 01:07:23,690 wasn't it will only work of support that 1492 01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:30,800 I'm talking about but it but the sole 1493 01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:32,720 solicitor was actually Welsh wasn't it 1494 01:07:44,770 --> 01:07:42,440 and he was yeah yeah I mean it was all 1495 01:07:46,450 --> 01:07:44,780 collect um in our minds at the time but 1496 01:07:48,370 --> 01:07:46,460 soon as times gone on with everything 1497 01:07:55,150 --> 01:07:48,380 else going on it sort of just be 1498 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:55,160 confused about such a big break and 1499 01:07:59,680 --> 01:07:56,690 that's just literally needed to dump it 1500 01:08:01,030 --> 01:07:59,690 all out on my head because Oh God you 1501 01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:01,040 get to a point where you just can't take 1502 01:08:05,230 --> 01:08:02,920 anymore 1503 01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:05,240 like you say well you were talking about 1504 01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:07,520 that but what they did what Warren did 1505 01:08:11,980 --> 01:08:10,400 he got the what I would what I've seen 1506 01:08:15,130 --> 01:08:11,990 just a village idiot so put them out on 1507 01:08:19,570 --> 01:08:15,140 Facebook oh man yeah I did didn't I yeah 1508 01:08:22,780 --> 01:08:19,580 and obviously Warren didn't do himself 1509 01:08:26,530 --> 01:08:22,790 why did he get bends occurs because that 1510 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:26,540 day somebody sent me a screenshot but it 1511 01:08:32,710 --> 01:08:28,130 was so tiny I couldn't even see what was 1512 01:08:36,490 --> 01:08:32,720 written on it and I was like oh and I 1513 01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:36,500 didn't even realize that it was letters 1514 01:08:44,259 --> 01:08:41,270 to us they yeah so it so everyone else 1515 01:08:46,140 --> 01:08:44,269 could be saved a letter through the post 1516 01:08:48,609 --> 01:08:46,150 well before Ben had put them up online 1517 01:08:50,620 --> 01:08:48,619 it if Ida looked at that and if I'd have 1518 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:50,630 been able to go to pens page I would 1519 01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:53,690 read that letter to me online before it 1520 01:09:00,099 --> 01:08:56,239 even came through the our da which is 1521 01:09:02,289 --> 01:09:00,109 also compromised his situation with his 1522 01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:02,299 solicitor because we're told him that as 1523 01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:07,249 well and and we all complain to the 1524 01:09:14,109 --> 01:09:12,819 well if in the world mean I got quite a 1525 01:09:15,789 --> 01:09:14,119 bit of support for the Suffolk police 1526 01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:15,799 but they like you say they didn't do it 1527 01:09:20,249 --> 01:09:18,289 at the end of the day I put it on record 1528 01:09:22,509 --> 01:09:20,259 and say boy if anything else happens 1529 01:09:24,430 --> 01:09:22,519 we'll take you out from there but they 1530 01:09:25,989 --> 01:09:24,440 didn't issue a lock crime number for it 1531 01:09:28,749 --> 01:09:25,999 but as far as it went 1532 01:09:31,209 --> 01:09:28,759 yeah well they kept giving me crime 1533 01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:31,219 numbers well they didn't actually they 1534 01:09:34,299 --> 01:09:32,329 gave me one crime number in the 1535 01:09:36,970 --> 01:09:34,309 beginning and then with each new threat 1536 01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:36,980 and each new different thing an incident 1537 01:09:42,009 --> 01:09:39,219 they kept putting it with the first one 1538 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:42,019 so I was saying now it's different 1539 01:09:45,939 --> 01:09:44,690 these are different incidents and the 1540 01:09:49,499 --> 01:09:45,949 print with the first one and written it 1541 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:49,509 off and then when Malky smithson 1542 01:09:53,529 --> 01:09:52,489 threatened mick saya threatened to shoot 1543 01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:53,539 him in the face 1544 01:10:00,279 --> 01:09:57,710 I cut his nails off family and said and 1545 01:10:04,660 --> 01:10:00,289 then if you do anything to retaliate to 1546 01:10:07,330 --> 01:10:04,670 me I'm gonna go for Christie do the same 1547 01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:07,340 and gave him my home address he gave mix 1548 01:10:13,149 --> 01:10:10,249 a a my home address to prove that he 1549 01:10:15,580 --> 01:10:13,159 knew where I lived so there were you 1550 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:15,590 know I found there's obviously shared on 1551 01:10:21,339 --> 01:10:19,610 my son so I found the police in Bradford 1552 01:10:23,919 --> 01:10:21,349 and spoke to them because that's where 1553 01:10:25,299 --> 01:10:23,929 this idiot lives and they were quite 1554 01:10:28,450 --> 01:10:25,309 happy to go around and arrest him 1555 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:28,460 because he's an idiot anyway and he's 1556 01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:31,010 got a farm for you know smashing 1557 01:10:36,930 --> 01:10:34,249 people's owls stone owls in the garden 1558 01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:36,940 and screaming in the face is the most 1559 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:44,510 traffic probably online train train 1560 01:10:55,569 --> 01:10:53,680 when so I found the police and they were 1561 01:10:57,069 --> 01:10:55,579 quite happy to arrest him and they asked 1562 01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:57,079 Merseyside to come one sec a statement 1563 01:11:00,100 --> 01:10:58,159 off me 1564 01:11:02,050 --> 01:11:00,110 which they refused to do and the officer 1565 01:11:05,649 --> 01:11:02,060 came around and this is what the victim 1566 01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:05,659 blame no I consider myself to be a 1567 01:11:10,419 --> 01:11:08,480 victim but I don't you know but well 1568 01:11:12,250 --> 01:11:10,429 then I felt the same but you at the same 1569 01:11:15,939 --> 01:11:12,260 time you just wanted to play that victim 1570 01:11:16,930 --> 01:11:15,949 you know what does it get situation 1571 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:16,940 because this is getting out of control 1572 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:19,810 they are handing out my address and 1573 01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:21,770 saying that they're going to shoot me in 1574 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:22,400 the face 1575 01:11:27,070 --> 01:11:24,650 Oh slow bullet behind the ear deal with 1576 01:11:28,959 --> 01:11:27,080 me NYC stylee something to do with the 1577 01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:28,969 construction sites and chains and 1578 01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:31,280 concrete you know all of these little 1579 01:11:36,970 --> 01:11:34,070 fantasies about me dying and he even put 1580 01:11:39,490 --> 01:11:36,980 a picture up of Elmer Fudd shooting this 1581 01:11:41,410 --> 01:11:39,500 woman in the face who looked like me so 1582 01:11:43,419 --> 01:11:41,420 you know when I told the police all this 1583 01:11:46,570 --> 01:11:43,429 they were going to go and arrest him but 1584 01:11:48,850 --> 01:11:46,580 then my police force didn't want to know 1585 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:48,860 because Larry Warren's got family in the 1586 01:11:52,689 --> 01:11:50,210 police and he's hanging out with the 1587 01:11:56,910 --> 01:11:52,699 police officer a next police officer 1588 01:11:59,680 --> 01:11:56,920 so you know I got shouted out and then 1589 01:12:01,360 --> 01:11:59,690 the police officer so you want you want 1590 01:12:07,899 --> 01:12:01,370 to say at this point anyone deliver poor 1591 01:12:09,580 --> 01:12:07,909 police out there yeah so it's just that 1592 01:12:13,959 --> 01:12:09,590 it varies like alluding to police 1593 01:12:16,330 --> 01:12:13,969 corruption but the officer that I spoke 1594 01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:16,340 to and Bradford actually went round to 1595 01:12:22,689 --> 01:12:18,830 his house and said that he was stuck 1596 01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,699 that I told he's gone into the house mal 1597 01:12:27,459 --> 01:12:24,320 keys upstairs you could hear him running 1598 01:12:31,570 --> 01:12:27,469 around and he comes down all dressed in 1599 01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,580 like a shirt and suit pants and his mom 1600 01:12:35,740 --> 01:12:33,679 says what you go just like that for well 1601 01:12:36,910 --> 01:12:35,750 I'm going to car I see he actually 1602 01:12:39,970 --> 01:12:36,920 thought it was going to get arrested for 1603 01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:39,980 it so because they didn't have a 1604 01:12:42,490 --> 01:12:41,030 statement they couldn't do anything 1605 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:42,500 about it so they just went around not a 1606 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:44,570 word with him so she chased him around 1607 01:12:48,820 --> 01:12:45,530 the room with a rolled-up newspaper 1608 01:12:51,010 --> 01:12:48,830 smacking around the end and rich Tsuruta 1609 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:51,020 out of the wall and phoned up from 1610 01:12:56,910 --> 01:12:55,489 Calais all their internet service which 1611 01:13:01,570 --> 01:12:56,920 didn't last long 1612 01:13:03,459 --> 01:13:01,580 it was back on again yes so he said to 1613 01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:03,469 me this guy's an idiot 1614 01:13:07,899 --> 01:13:06,590 it was about as much as a crisp and if 1615 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:07,909 you turned up at his door 1616 01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,850 it's our world that fall out of his ass 1617 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:12,080 that was the officers were 1618 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:14,690 some friends I've got in Keithley says 1619 01:13:31,690 --> 01:13:29,810 the way we'll go kidnap him you know be 1620 01:13:39,580 --> 01:13:31,700 that person sometimes in your mind you 1621 01:13:41,230 --> 01:13:39,590 just think yes don't worry about his 1622 01:13:43,540 --> 01:13:41,240 life he's crap you can't get a 1623 01:13:45,370 --> 01:13:43,550 girlfriend he lives with his mom who 1624 01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:45,380 hates him because he's an idiot 1625 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:52,190 oh crap in his life be so but these this 1626 01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:54,050 is the thing though because it was 1627 01:13:58,510 --> 01:13:55,910 pretty intense wasn't it all that abuse 1628 01:13:59,770 --> 01:13:58,520 oh absolutely yeah I mean different if 1629 01:14:02,440 --> 01:13:59,780 front-and-center wasn't here and the 1630 01:14:04,660 --> 01:14:02,450 last I know the one that you told me 1631 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:04,670 about which was aimed at me was well 1632 01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:06,770 there's gonna free my wife from me and 1633 01:14:12,460 --> 01:14:09,110 come and take my property I actually 1634 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:12,470 been put I'll just lost you because I 1635 01:14:16,090 --> 01:14:14,450 actually made a complete complaint the 1636 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:16,100 police and I made a big post on online 1637 01:14:21,850 --> 01:14:18,290 about it and it was shortly after that 1638 01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:21,860 that Frank made his video which is yeah 1639 01:14:29,740 --> 01:14:26,750 which it you know which I mean Frank's 1640 01:14:33,190 --> 01:14:29,750 great I mean he's a rough diamond via 1641 01:14:34,660 --> 01:14:33,200 the end you know Frank and he actually 1642 01:14:35,980 --> 01:14:34,670 brought tears to my eyes some of the 1643 01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:35,990 things he said on that video 1644 01:14:43,570 --> 01:14:38,000 it was tough I mean it's hard to listen 1645 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:43,580 to I mean Frank doesn't he just laid it 1646 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:47,810 on the line and he said because I think 1647 01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:50,810 it followed the trip to Liverpool that I 1648 01:14:55,870 --> 01:14:53,150 made to when I was invited to the HEA 1649 01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:55,880 with Frank and you've been as well since 1650 01:15:02,800 --> 01:14:59,840 and we've sort of made up and everything 1651 01:15:08,020 --> 01:15:02,810 and I didn't warrant said that we didn't 1652 01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:08,030 go yeah he didn't go as well because he 1653 01:15:13,630 --> 01:15:11,270 wasn't in town we always said he was in 1654 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:13,640 town yeah just arrived back in town 1655 01:15:18,730 --> 01:15:16,850 under otherwise he'd be my room but we 1656 01:15:24,610 --> 01:15:18,740 say what he did to Frank was he told him 1657 01:15:25,540 --> 01:15:24,620 about his little girl learns about his 1658 01:15:31,630 --> 01:15:25,550 little go simple 1659 01:15:34,420 --> 01:15:31,640 and women for everybody else's benefit 1660 01:15:38,260 --> 01:15:34,430 Frank Willis he is Guinness World Book 1661 01:15:42,490 --> 01:15:38,270 of Records champion for smashing 20 1662 01:15:46,450 --> 01:15:42,500 concrete slabs with one hand loose lips 1663 01:15:49,630 --> 01:15:46,460 brutal slabs concrete slabs yeah a 1664 01:15:57,070 --> 01:15:49,640 really long kind of slabs of concrete 1665 01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,080 and they were yeah holds the record for 1666 01:16:04,540 --> 01:15:59,360 smashing them with one hand 1667 01:16:06,850 --> 01:16:04,550 boys and girls one hand in shame because 1668 01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:06,860 he's a kung fu master with his little 1669 01:16:13,390 --> 01:16:10,490 girl anger and he also holds the world 1670 01:16:17,890 --> 01:16:13,400 record for breaking chopsticks on his 1671 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:17,900 throat with his hand right in the palm 1672 01:16:21,310 --> 01:16:20,570 of her hand the tip of the chopsticks in 1673 01:16:22,690 --> 01:16:21,320 his throat 1674 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:22,700 the tip of the chopsticks in the palm of 1675 01:16:29,290 --> 01:16:24,890 his hand with his other hand he is 1676 01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:29,300 smacking him and these chopsticks are 1677 01:16:34,750 --> 01:16:31,040 just flying all over the place in bits 1678 01:16:37,180 --> 01:16:34,760 right he's chili scary to watch isn't it 1679 01:16:38,830 --> 01:16:37,190 it's intense but I mean I did do kung 1680 01:16:40,450 --> 01:16:38,840 foo and I've seen this canister before 1681 01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:40,460 and I just think it's the most amazing 1682 01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:44,960 like unbelievable at achievement it 1683 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:48,590 takes years and years and years years to 1684 01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:51,770 get like that and and he used to be a 1685 01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:54,950 soldier of fortune and he's not going to 1686 01:16:59,140 --> 01:16:57,410 mess with so you know he was in touch 1687 01:17:00,370 --> 01:16:59,150 with the Hells Angels all this time all 1688 01:17:03,310 --> 01:17:00,380 that time and he took you to the Hells 1689 01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:03,320 Angels clubhouse which is where Warren 1690 01:17:09,940 --> 01:17:05,360 said that you didn't go blah blah blah 1691 01:17:11,170 --> 01:17:09,950 then I got invited because well there 1692 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:11,180 was all that kerfuffle Frank put 1693 01:17:18,670 --> 01:17:15,970 Warren's address up online didn't he oh 1694 01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:18,680 what a winner when I complained to the 1695 01:17:22,540 --> 01:17:20,030 police about their desperate are you 1696 01:17:26,380 --> 01:17:22,550 here to be Warren raw and sold dim that 1697 01:17:28,450 --> 01:17:26,390 I put it up that's not true yeah Frank 1698 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:28,460 got old of his address and put it up 1699 01:17:33,180 --> 01:17:31,250 online and I said well if that goes then 1700 01:17:39,010 --> 01:17:33,190 you know that he actually lives there 1701 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:41,020 angels thangka old of his address 1702 01:17:44,710 --> 01:17:42,770 because he'd been saying that he was 1703 01:17:47,050 --> 01:17:44,720 hells angels and that flushed his 1704 01:17:48,730 --> 01:17:47,060 patches on this youtube video with 1705 01:17:51,550 --> 01:17:48,740 Germont Aldo and Christine 1706 01:17:53,410 --> 01:17:51,560 George which I mentioned before so they 1707 01:17:55,630 --> 01:17:53,420 saw her and they went round and took him 1708 01:17:57,670 --> 01:17:55,640 off him and told him don't you ever say 1709 01:17:59,050 --> 01:17:57,680 that you are angels again because you're 1710 01:18:01,300 --> 01:17:59,060 not and it's the second time he's done 1711 01:18:04,750 --> 01:18:01,310 it second time they've partly I'm out 1712 01:18:09,070 --> 01:18:04,760 doing it he'll die for a liar I lie in 1713 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:09,080 that month you will mm-hmm probably 1714 01:18:18,010 --> 01:18:10,730 insulting them third nurse is a Tolkien 1715 01:18:21,070 --> 01:18:18,020 after him so yeah and anyway there's 1716 01:18:22,810 --> 01:18:21,080 been this kind of spate of shows that 1717 01:18:24,820 --> 01:18:22,820 they were doing which have all kind of 1718 01:18:27,460 --> 01:18:24,830 calmed down I hope I'm very quiet as an 1719 01:18:30,370 --> 01:18:27,470 it after yeah well since that actually 1720 01:18:32,770 --> 01:18:30,380 since that um since that show which all 1721 01:18:34,510 --> 01:18:32,780 grants older and christinageorge 1722 01:18:36,940 --> 01:18:34,520 we haven't heard any more of we from all 1723 01:18:39,820 --> 01:18:36,950 really as far as radio shows it seems 1724 01:18:43,540 --> 01:18:39,830 like he's been at a gate you know just 1725 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:43,550 shut down or something I think they told 1726 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:51,670 but anyway it was after that that going 1727 01:18:56,350 --> 01:18:53,810 us all Tyne started doing all these 1728 01:18:57,210 --> 01:18:56,360 shows and that's when he did the journal 1729 01:19:01,600 --> 01:18:57,220 Lmax 1730 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:01,610 interview where he refused to answer any 1731 01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:04,610 questions puts him in the chat room he 1732 01:19:11,140 --> 01:19:07,490 refused and they were all like really 1733 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:11,150 really kind of normal questions so 1734 01:19:14,590 --> 01:19:13,130 weren't anything that's the one where he 1735 01:19:20,460 --> 01:19:14,600 looks so uncomfortable it's like he's 1736 01:19:22,690 --> 01:19:20,470 playing about me being a bunny boiler 1737 01:19:24,250 --> 01:19:22,700 and he's bouncing up and down in his 1738 01:19:26,110 --> 01:19:24,260 arms are waving everywhere and these 1739 01:19:27,970 --> 01:19:26,120 dogs jump up directly and start back in 1740 01:19:29,890 --> 01:19:27,980 the thing someone's coming in the window 1741 01:19:33,250 --> 01:19:29,900 attacking miles away and I was like oh 1742 01:19:35,980 --> 01:19:33,260 my god he's right I'm right under his 1743 01:19:39,210 --> 01:19:35,990 skin he hates me he hates me why do you 1744 01:19:41,710 --> 01:19:39,220 hate me Gary why do you hate me so much 1745 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:41,720 but why did he know because he did this 1746 01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:44,330 he did this on purpose it's either he's 1747 01:19:52,689 --> 01:19:47,840 seen how much blog traffic I was getting 1748 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:52,699 in or he's because he can't stand 1749 01:19:56,890 --> 01:19:54,800 women are it cat's tongue me or 1750 01:19:59,049 --> 01:19:56,900 something like that because why would he 1751 01:20:00,969 --> 01:19:59,059 even take up with him he says he's not a 1752 01:20:03,759 --> 01:20:00,979 friend of mine we're not friends in life 1753 01:20:05,109 --> 01:20:03,769 so why are you doing this and now this 1754 01:20:08,529 --> 01:20:05,119 whole film was being born 1755 01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:08,539 Capel Green has been born and it's all 1756 01:20:13,919 --> 01:20:12,110 the Larry Warren sure and he's in the 1757 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:13,929 Vince of you 20 people who weren't there 1758 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:16,249 and I've heard him say I think he's 1759 01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:19,010 interviewed by Grant Cameron and he's 1760 01:20:23,949 --> 01:20:21,289 saying well we have to say Larry Warren 1761 01:20:26,620 --> 01:20:23,959 out of the picture to see if gable green 1762 01:20:29,739 --> 01:20:26,630 still works and then interviews 20 1763 01:20:33,609 --> 01:20:29,749 people who were even there and as added 1764 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:33,619 an alien so it's just lots of crap 1765 01:20:37,989 --> 01:20:36,010 before he even gets off the ground 1766 01:20:40,029 --> 01:20:37,999 well you have to question this person 1767 01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:40,039 Theon Johnson as well as good the 1768 01:20:42,850 --> 01:20:42,110 producer of this film he's been told by 1769 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:42,860 Colonel Holt 1770 01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:45,530 but Warren's a liar and he wasn't there 1771 01:20:48,969 --> 01:20:46,880 and everything and yet he still went 1772 01:20:50,469 --> 01:20:48,979 ahead because I believe they tried to 1773 01:20:53,469 --> 01:20:50,479 get Colonel Holt involved in the first 1774 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:53,479 place well we're in the film probably to 1775 01:21:02,729 --> 01:20:56,449 say you know to be part of it 1776 01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:02,739 of course Colonel Holt refused yeah 1777 01:21:07,029 --> 01:21:05,510 think Jim Penniston and Burroughs are 1778 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:07,039 pretty much the same thing as well do 1779 01:21:11,739 --> 01:21:09,190 not talk about I don't know about John 1780 01:21:15,310 --> 01:21:11,749 actually I know that Jim ELLs and he's 1781 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:15,320 been complaining about Gary using his 1782 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:19,130 material mmm well just recently was it 1783 01:21:23,799 --> 01:21:20,449 because Gary Harris I was trying to turn 1784 01:21:28,299 --> 01:21:23,809 it into a photo four day event now well 1785 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:28,309 actually so is John Burroughs but just 1786 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:32,090 to digress slightly my idea of it with 1787 01:21:36,279 --> 01:21:34,130 the military testing they would have 1788 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:36,289 need to need it to be a day for to clear 1789 01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:37,489 up all the stuff that they've been using 1790 01:21:44,919 --> 01:21:40,249 for the over the weekend so that's quite 1791 01:21:49,299 --> 01:21:44,929 likely but Larry Warren wasn't involved 1792 01:21:50,770 --> 01:21:49,309 in it no no I don't know you know what 1793 01:21:55,839 --> 01:21:50,780 this film's gonna be about it'll be 1794 01:21:58,209 --> 01:21:55,849 interesting I guess from a you know from 1795 01:21:59,949 --> 01:21:58,219 our point of view because it is now set 1796 01:22:02,709 --> 01:21:59,959 in stone isn't it he's setting me in 1797 01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:02,719 stone because based on what Laura and 1798 01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:05,510 Laura Warren's testimony and he said 1799 01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:06,460 that he's up to take 1800 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:08,080 or an out of the picture and they're not 1801 01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:09,690 friends on Facebook anymore apparently 1802 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:13,450 you know so yes I understand I don't 1803 01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:15,810 know what's what's going on there 1804 01:22:22,050 --> 01:22:19,510 because it's not his film it's not about 1805 01:22:23,610 --> 01:22:22,060 him anymore it's about yeah I can't have 1806 01:22:26,430 --> 01:22:23,620 these stories being stolen well not 1807 01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:26,440 stolen maybe but sort of lifted off of 1808 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:37,709 so financially I don't know what's 1809 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:41,650 happening the Philippine finance store 1810 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:48,720 yeah but then they need to get some sort 1811 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:52,000 of distribution distribution and an 1812 01:22:57,780 --> 01:22:53,770 insurance for it at the end of the day 1813 01:23:03,959 --> 01:22:57,790 so as I understand y'all think they're 1814 01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:03,969 having trouble doing that there's so 1815 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:07,030 much information out there that contests 1816 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:10,090 everything that he said and in my last 1817 01:23:16,170 --> 01:23:15,130 blog about all of this the open letter 1818 01:23:19,910 --> 01:23:16,180 to Gary Heseltine 1819 01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:19,920 when I use clips of Warren talked him 1820 01:23:26,729 --> 01:23:22,510 say different things he notes to do 1821 01:23:29,970 --> 01:23:26,739 versions of everything and that's where 1822 01:23:32,130 --> 01:23:29,980 I'm at I'll talk where he in his usual 1823 01:23:36,090 --> 01:23:32,140 narrative was the bit far he goes it's 1824 01:23:37,890 --> 01:23:36,100 of the field with Adrian and you know he 1825 01:23:41,459 --> 01:23:37,900 says that you say on these way back from 1826 01:23:45,260 --> 01:23:41,469 all of that he sees Colonel halt in his 1827 01:23:50,490 --> 01:23:45,270 aviators sunglasses and that's where 1828 01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:50,500 goodnight that's when Adrian went off 1829 01:23:56,610 --> 01:23:54,400 with Charles halt John and that's how it 1830 01:23:58,530 --> 01:23:56,620 even further sort of further adds in and 1831 01:24:02,010 --> 01:23:58,540 that's how Adrian could have been 1832 01:24:04,170 --> 01:24:02,020 everywhere all in one night but he says 1833 01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:04,180 that he heard certain things coming over 1834 01:24:09,390 --> 01:24:06,310 the radio while he was still on his 1835 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:09,400 guard post and then while he's out there 1836 01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:11,650 but what he could hear what he says he 1837 01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:12,910 could hear coming over that he's 1838 01:24:19,509 --> 01:24:16,000 verbatim what he said on Charles Holt's 1839 01:24:22,750 --> 01:24:19,519 tape which is when he's with Adrian so 1840 01:24:25,359 --> 01:24:22,760 if you write out his narrative it 1841 01:24:27,399 --> 01:24:25,369 doesn't make any sense at all how can 1842 01:24:29,529 --> 01:24:27,409 how can that be how can he have heard 1843 01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:29,539 what he's being said by Colonel Hall and 1844 01:24:34,959 --> 01:24:33,289 Adrienne and John well well who was on 1845 01:24:36,819 --> 01:24:34,969 the tape you know the people they were 1846 01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:36,829 actually on the same he couldn't have 1847 01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:39,710 heard any of that while he was on his 1848 01:24:48,189 --> 01:24:44,960 guard post if it was all said after he'd 1849 01:24:50,290 --> 01:24:48,199 left the field with Adrian which he said 1850 01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:50,300 was about how far in the morning and he 1851 01:24:53,529 --> 01:24:51,679 was covered in March and they went back 1852 01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:53,539 to the Dom then he can't remember going 1853 01:24:59,970 --> 01:24:55,190 back to the Dom then he can't remember 1854 01:25:02,919 --> 01:24:59,980 leaving the field so it's just got 1855 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:02,929 completely different stories all of the 1856 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:07,090 time and I think that Oh 1857 01:25:13,810 --> 01:25:11,050 David wouldn't miss it up there 1858 01:25:18,879 --> 01:25:13,820 we've missed one of the most important 1859 01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:18,889 by blaming myself am I not taking it out 1860 01:25:24,759 --> 01:25:23,030 of it okay this is special this is very 1861 01:25:30,279 --> 01:25:24,769 very special this a little bit 1862 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:30,289 Larry Warren at 9/11 oh yeah if anything 1863 01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:32,090 I was actually thinking about it a 1864 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:33,679 little bit earlier when you were talking 1865 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:35,449 about so will be we must make sure the 1866 01:25:50,589 --> 01:25:45,730 9/11 thing so in 2001 9/11 when the 1867 01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:50,599 atrocities occurred Larry Warren said in 1868 01:25:56,739 --> 01:25:53,840 this it barged into a conference here in 1869 01:25:59,229 --> 01:25:56,749 Liverpool where a Nima Sean and David 1870 01:25:59,919 --> 01:25:59,239 Shayler were talking and their ex mi5 1871 01:26:03,729 --> 01:25:59,929 agents 1872 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:03,739 so he goes steaming in because he 1873 01:26:11,020 --> 01:26:06,010 doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job 1874 01:26:13,540 --> 01:26:11,030 they do and so he said he was there he 1875 01:26:16,660 --> 01:26:13,550 was there I was there man and he puts on 1876 01:26:18,189 --> 01:26:16,670 this Brooklyn accent it's like oh so he 1877 01:26:19,890 --> 01:26:18,199 wasn't invited to a conference and he 1878 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:19,900 just sort of being by himself 1879 01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:23,570 I didn't know I thought you were him boy 1880 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:27,110 no no he went in into the thingy into 1881 01:26:33,069 --> 01:26:31,010 the hall where it was and started coming 1882 01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:33,079 on and he went up to the front and they 1883 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:33,360 like 1884 01:26:43,459 --> 01:26:40,770 speak so he says that he was there in 1885 01:26:49,310 --> 01:26:43,469 the immediate aftermath because of his 1886 01:26:50,990 --> 01:26:49,320 expertise in the steel industry does it 1887 01:26:54,620 --> 01:26:51,000 go into any detail about what his 1888 01:27:07,760 --> 01:26:54,630 expertise in the steel industry is they 1889 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:07,770 say ste a as a as a group of people we 1890 01:27:11,870 --> 01:27:09,330 were all working together to try and 1891 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:11,880 expose the lives of this man when this 1892 01:27:15,709 --> 01:27:12,810 came to light 1893 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:15,719 calimary and myself at a couple of 1894 01:27:21,709 --> 01:27:18,449 others we did as much background 1895 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:21,719 searching as we could on 9/11 and the 1896 01:27:26,930 --> 01:27:24,449 registers and who was there who helped 1897 01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:26,940 who did what this photo albums 1898 01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:31,679 there's memorials everything and a very 1899 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:34,230 very high percentage of those people are 1900 01:27:41,390 --> 01:27:38,310 all ill from they stuff that they were 1901 01:27:43,070 --> 01:27:41,400 breathing in lots of people that I mean 1902 01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:43,080 the death toll is still rising isn't it 1903 01:27:46,669 --> 01:27:44,369 because people are dying from these 1904 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:46,679 diseases that were literally because of 1905 01:27:52,820 --> 01:27:50,690 this incident but not Larry 1906 01:27:57,740 --> 01:27:52,830 yesterday he says he spent four months 1907 01:28:01,790 --> 01:27:57,750 in that hot wasn't it yes mother effers 1908 01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:01,800 he were just on my way to work was poor 1909 01:28:08,750 --> 01:28:07,110 I mean am i right am i right you got to 1910 01:28:11,169 --> 01:28:08,760 listen to how he speaks to people is 1911 01:28:13,459 --> 01:28:11,179 shocking so he goes steaming in there oh 1912 01:28:13,850 --> 01:28:13,469 and don't forget he was raised in the 1913 01:28:15,979 --> 01:28:13,860 Bronx 1914 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:15,989 yeah perhaps for me says that he was 1915 01:28:21,979 --> 01:28:20,850 ready now in New York the comments on 1916 01:28:23,870 --> 01:28:21,989 that first of all he's raised in the 1917 01:28:27,620 --> 01:28:23,880 promise somebody absolutely watch this 1918 01:28:32,300 --> 01:28:27,630 who knows him and they said oh my god 1919 01:28:35,390 --> 01:28:32,310 he's putting on a Bronx accent I mean 1920 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:35,400 I'm pretty ignorant to different accents 1921 01:28:40,370 --> 01:28:38,130 from a mariko-chan a train okay 1922 01:28:44,450 --> 01:28:40,380 this locker gates Jackson but I wouldn't 1923 01:28:47,150 --> 01:28:44,460 know a Bronx accent from a you know for 1924 01:28:55,740 --> 01:28:53,430 really so there's nothing I mean right 1925 01:28:57,690 --> 01:28:55,750 for a start there were no planes in 1926 01:28:58,410 --> 01:28:57,700 flight there were no flights so how did 1927 01:29:01,740 --> 01:28:58,420 he get there 1928 01:29:04,490 --> 01:29:01,750 was it a special flight for him and what 1929 01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:04,500 about his garments all done 1930 01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:07,000 did he just leave his wife for four 1931 01:29:10,890 --> 01:29:07,600 months 1932 01:29:12,990 --> 01:29:10,900 well she had a baby to go and see body 1933 01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:13,000 parts being pulled out and all the rest 1934 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:17,920 of it you know I mean I somebody that's 1935 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:19,690 hard to support well the funny thing is 1936 01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:27,130 a week later Peter was speaking about 1937 01:29:31,530 --> 01:29:28,840 Hopkins were speaking and Laurie was 1938 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:31,540 there yeah and so he couldn't have been 1939 01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:33,610 in New York and man unless it's two of 1940 01:29:46,290 --> 01:29:44,620 him it's disgraceful many piece of 1941 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:46,300 Robbie's was taken back when he found 1942 01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:47,650 out about all that thing I don't think 1943 01:29:52,110 --> 01:29:50,560 he heard of that because otherwise when 1944 01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:52,120 if they had actually happened what and 1945 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:55,600 Peter Robbins have been because I mean 1946 01:30:01,980 --> 01:29:57,850 Peter obviously lived in Manhattan at 1947 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:01,990 the time and he was actually discussed 1948 01:30:10,260 --> 01:30:04,690 eater as many New Yorkers were when it 1949 01:30:13,670 --> 01:30:10,270 was being it was found out yeah I mean 1950 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:13,680 what you call that would be stolen valor 1951 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:16,210 hmm people get into trouble for lying 1952 01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:19,570 about things like that yeah you know but 1953 01:30:24,300 --> 01:30:22,270 I mean if he was in America and say in 1954 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:24,310 arles there'd be somebody there to jump 1955 01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:27,250 on him but isn't he the UK and he can 1956 01:30:35,490 --> 01:30:30,400 get away with that this is nobody you 1957 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:35,500 know legally or morally keeping a check 1958 01:30:42,750 --> 01:30:40,530 on anybody over here making stories up 1959 01:30:44,510 --> 01:30:42,760 yeah and I think that that word moral 1960 01:30:47,370 --> 01:30:44,520 evil what you just said when when you 1961 01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:47,380 put that to all the people that still 1962 01:30:53,010 --> 01:30:49,600 support him and they've got a lot to 1963 01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:53,020 answer for I believe but the other side 1964 01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:56,770 of it is the Stolen Valor of the Air 1965 01:31:02,429 --> 01:30:59,679 Force I mean 1966 01:31:04,799 --> 01:31:02,439 you see this is where I found it very 1967 01:31:07,109 --> 01:31:04,809 difficult with Gary assaults I'm saying 1968 01:31:10,739 --> 01:31:07,119 that there's no lies and all the rest of 1969 01:31:13,469 --> 01:31:10,749 it when he knows that Mary Warren was in 1970 01:31:16,020 --> 01:31:13,479 the Air Force from the very first day of 1971 01:31:23,250 --> 01:31:16,030 training to the day that he was booted 1972 01:31:26,549 --> 01:31:23,260 out for 134 days 19 weeks right I'm in 1973 01:31:30,330 --> 01:31:26,559 the film cable green they putted Air 1974 01:31:35,129 --> 01:31:30,340 Force retired security so tired you 1975 01:31:36,689 --> 01:31:35,139 tired no that's a lie that is a lie 1976 01:31:38,219 --> 01:31:36,699 I wonder if they've changed that god I 1977 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:38,229 did see a trailer net would that have 1978 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:42,010 been gone it was xx oh I think I put 1979 01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:44,050 ex-servicemen or something now well with 1980 01:31:51,899 --> 01:31:50,050 us there as well where did he where did 1981 01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:51,909 he serve where was he where did he sit 1982 01:31:57,449 --> 01:31:54,249 well was he sat hmm and he reckons it 1983 01:32:01,739 --> 01:31:57,459 was given a m16 used in the Tet 1984 01:32:03,389 --> 01:32:01,749 Offensive yeah what they were faced 1985 01:32:06,919 --> 01:32:03,399 pulled him up on that as well yeah Frank 1986 01:32:10,850 --> 01:32:06,929 will this does Frank knows about m16 and 1987 01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:10,860 he said that was from like the Vietnam 1988 01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:25,030 War Suzy's from I just was me where I 1989 01:32:30,119 --> 01:32:26,649 was I just kind of think of these things 1990 01:32:32,279 --> 01:32:30,129 I just think oh my god he's crazy I know 1991 01:32:33,959 --> 01:32:32,289 this is the whole trouble with the hold 1992 01:32:35,489 --> 01:32:33,969 of this thing you can jump from one 1993 01:32:38,609 --> 01:32:35,499 place to another and you end up just 1994 01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:38,619 going many circles because it's just so 1995 01:32:44,369 --> 01:32:41,110 many lies it's such a tangle tangle of 1996 01:32:47,219 --> 01:32:44,379 lies that it's just caught on pick up 1997 01:32:49,469 --> 01:32:47,229 most of the time then why why we confirm 1998 01:32:54,449 --> 01:32:49,479 why we can see them and people like Gary 1999 01:32:57,149 --> 01:32:54,459 has a time Kong I just don't see them 2000 01:33:01,560 --> 01:32:57,159 yeah and I wrote that blog alphabet it's 2001 01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:01,570 a Gary Heseltine and in it there are so 2002 01:33:05,729 --> 01:33:03,369 many clips of so many things all right i 2003 01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:05,739 wuold on quite a bit I must admit I'm 2004 01:33:26,830 --> 01:33:17,530 Summa Clinton like I'm going on because 2005 01:33:31,470 --> 01:33:26,840 it really paid off everything the 2006 01:33:42,669 --> 01:33:34,840 the bravery and courage in ufology 2007 01:33:45,970 --> 01:33:42,679 forties oh don't take no please be 2008 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:45,980 subscribed but so I and my open license 2009 01:33:50,620 --> 01:33:47,810 to carry a cell sign I do actually 2010 01:33:52,990 --> 01:33:50,630 waffle on a bit at Gary because it's 2011 01:33:56,910 --> 01:33:53,000 kind of me a body boiler for God's sake 2012 01:34:00,129 --> 01:33:56,920 mm-hmm you know I'm just 2013 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:00,139 you see I can't even read out any of 2014 01:34:08,350 --> 01:34:01,850 these things of Larry's because of the 2015 01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:08,360 language mm-hmm yeah it's pretty 2016 01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:10,510 disgusting but Gary's not looked at this 2017 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:14,150 he's not looked at this at all 2018 01:34:21,459 --> 01:34:17,449 one of the things that he did to me with 2019 01:34:25,149 --> 01:34:21,469 his this is Larry now his little gang of 2020 01:34:27,790 --> 01:34:25,159 hench was to just like because I 2021 01:34:30,010 --> 01:34:27,800 explained before my partner day of his 2022 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:30,020 business went bankrupt well Warren was 2023 01:34:38,110 --> 01:34:34,370 living with us and so we had to go on 2024 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:38,120 benefits so I'm Larry said about me one 2025 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:39,530 part one of the things that he was doing 2026 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:41,210 and was trying to say that there was 2027 01:34:44,850 --> 01:34:42,770 nothing wrong with me because I am I've 2028 01:34:47,260 --> 01:34:44,860 got physical issues can't walk very far 2029 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:47,270 all the rest of it my knees dislocate 2030 01:34:52,959 --> 01:34:50,330 the other you know lowers the problems 2031 01:34:54,430 --> 01:34:52,969 and because I'm nearly 50 now you know 2032 01:34:56,590 --> 01:34:54,440 I've had these problems all my life and 2033 01:34:58,810 --> 01:34:56,600 so I've got arthritis all over the place 2034 01:35:00,700 --> 01:34:58,820 because you know I've got hypermobility 2035 01:35:03,970 --> 01:35:00,710 my bones do move around a bit the clanks 2036 01:35:07,030 --> 01:35:03,980 together and so I've got quite a few 2037 01:35:10,959 --> 01:35:07,040 issues so the reports he'd mean three 2038 01:35:16,209 --> 01:35:10,969 times for working for running around on 2039 01:35:18,879 --> 01:35:16,219 stage in high heels talking about UFOs 2040 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:18,889 and what have you three times the 2041 01:35:23,259 --> 01:35:21,650 reported me to social services for 2042 01:35:26,020 --> 01:35:23,269 abusing my children I mean 2043 01:35:31,359 --> 01:35:26,030 they told me about that and Tommy letter 2044 01:35:33,609 --> 01:35:31,369 said they are taking no action you know 2045 01:35:36,580 --> 01:35:33,619 I had to go into this bloody office so 2046 01:35:40,149 --> 01:35:36,590 this woman and said three times I said 2047 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:40,159 you know they've been watching me that 2048 01:35:45,669 --> 01:35:43,610 you know officers sort of watching the 2049 01:35:47,290 --> 01:35:45,679 house to see what was going on and all 2050 01:35:47,770 --> 01:35:47,300 this I was Dave taking the kids to 2051 01:35:52,359 --> 01:35:47,780 school 2052 01:35:54,850 --> 01:35:52,369 going to doctors appointments you know 2053 01:35:58,660 --> 01:35:54,860 the normal going on of a person in a 2054 01:36:04,020 --> 01:35:58,670 sitting people in our situation dragged 2055 01:36:06,549 --> 01:36:04,030 his wife into it she's also saying that 2056 01:36:08,649 --> 01:36:06,559 because he's saying oh she's obsessed to 2057 01:36:12,759 --> 01:36:08,659 me some people thought she was my wife 2058 01:36:15,700 --> 01:36:12,769 now this is like 10 years ago no no no 2059 01:36:19,290 --> 01:36:15,710 eight years ago on the Rendlesham forest 2060 01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:19,300 incident farm that used to exist 2061 01:36:24,549 --> 01:36:21,980 somebody asked me if I was Larry's 2062 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:24,559 ex-wife and I'd laughed I was like well 2063 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:26,690 no because there was a bit like 10 years 2064 01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:28,610 old when all that went off unless you're 2065 01:36:33,180 --> 01:36:30,800 accusing him as something else now so it 2066 01:36:35,739 --> 01:36:33,190 used to joke about that it was a joke 2067 01:36:39,759 --> 01:36:35,749 right oh my wife and I used to go 2068 01:36:41,890 --> 01:36:39,769 where's my where's my alimony [\h__\h] blah 2069 01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:41,900 blah blah what we in this forest with 2070 01:36:47,140 --> 01:36:44,480 these seven little kids splat you know 2071 01:36:47,589 --> 01:36:47,150 like 7th snow-white 7th are just big 2072 01:36:53,140 --> 01:36:47,599 stupid 2073 01:36:55,930 --> 01:36:53,150 that into a real thing that somebody 2074 01:36:57,669 --> 01:36:55,940 that people fart that I was execs wife 2075 01:36:59,290 --> 01:36:57,679 because I was so clingy with him because 2076 01:37:01,689 --> 01:36:59,300 I was so all I was and never stop 2077 01:37:04,779 --> 01:37:01,699 talking about him la la la to the point 2078 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:04,789 where right our joking 2079 01:37:09,970 --> 01:37:07,130 wound his ex-wife or because I was going 2080 01:37:13,989 --> 01:37:09,980 on about where as was my money 2081 01:37:16,779 --> 01:37:13,999 ouch you know because he never pays me 2082 01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:16,789 alimony dur dur dur she thought that 2083 01:37:23,379 --> 01:37:20,110 that was a directed to her as a gibe 2084 01:37:25,589 --> 01:37:23,389 because he never paid her he's my my you 2085 01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:25,599 know the money yeah and so her 2086 01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:27,550 ex-boyfriend 2087 01:37:32,859 --> 01:37:31,249 Dominique chances messaged me and asked 2088 01:37:34,959 --> 01:37:32,869 me have you've got a problem with sue 2089 01:37:36,850 --> 01:37:34,969 blah blah blah I was like no no why 2090 01:37:38,500 --> 01:37:36,860 would I have you know and 2091 01:37:40,780 --> 01:37:38,510 like in these so he said what it was 2092 01:37:42,220 --> 01:37:40,790 about this ex-wife thing I said I said 2093 01:37:44,470 --> 01:37:42,230 it's just a joke it's just some idiot 2094 01:37:46,690 --> 01:37:44,480 asked me and this farm years ago it's 2095 01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:46,700 just a bit of banter our sound you know 2096 01:37:53,290 --> 01:37:50,480 in our problem and so ii was told that's 2097 01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:53,300 what it was but now he's been a ball 2098 01:37:58,930 --> 01:37:54,800 brought back to life to make me look 2099 01:38:01,230 --> 01:37:58,940 like a crazy person but you know she 2100 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:01,240 knows that's not true so she's lying and 2101 01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:05,330 dom jumped on to it so he's lying they 2102 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:08,710 all started why he concert today 2103 01:38:13,570 --> 01:38:11,330 yeah so some well for about a year or so 2104 01:38:18,510 --> 01:38:13,580 ago now and oh just be so we get lost 2105 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:21,310 shut up shove off 2106 01:38:29,110 --> 01:38:24,770 you're talking about so he was I 2107 01:38:40,510 --> 01:38:29,120 suddenly got this call from and I think 2108 01:38:41,980 --> 01:38:40,520 you told me yeah because he can't fight 2109 01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:41,990 his own battles he creates these little 2110 01:38:50,020 --> 01:38:45,110 lies and then sending people it's about 2111 01:38:51,550 --> 01:38:50,030 old for him you know but it's blatant 2112 01:38:53,050 --> 01:38:51,560 relying he's putting the light about a 2113 01:38:56,290 --> 01:38:53,060 lot of things a lot of things that we 2114 01:38:58,600 --> 01:38:56,300 can prove is Lionel a exaggerations so 2115 01:39:00,820 --> 01:38:58,610 you know how can you actually trust this 2116 01:39:02,140 --> 01:39:00,830 man in anything at all especially 2117 01:39:04,420 --> 01:39:02,150 Whitney talk about his military 2118 01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:04,430 documents there at the SI and they say 2119 01:39:12,580 --> 01:39:05,450 CIA 2120 01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:12,590 MF I tell you why even even if they 2121 01:39:16,660 --> 01:39:15,110 escaped is this there's there's a sign 2122 01:39:18,430 --> 01:39:16,670 of things to come is in there where 2123 01:39:22,270 --> 01:39:18,440 Peter Robbins interviewed Colonel Hall 2124 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:22,280 and takes Warren's paperwork with him to 2125 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:24,530 show to Colonel whole Colonel whole 2126 01:39:28,150 --> 01:39:26,090 produces a completely different set of 2127 01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,160 paperwork asking Peter where he got 2128 01:39:32,650 --> 01:39:31,040 those from and so there's obviously a 2129 01:39:36,010 --> 01:39:32,660 sign of things to come as in there with 2130 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:36,020 problems for the paper well to Charles 2131 01:39:43,660 --> 01:39:39,890 about that he said there were a dinner 2132 01:39:45,490 --> 01:39:43,670 or something an event and Peter kind of 2133 01:39:46,990 --> 01:39:45,500 showed him to him any other quick look 2134 01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:47,000 through and he said yeah they look 2135 01:39:52,199 --> 01:39:50,169 alright but like he said to me he said 2136 01:39:54,060 --> 01:39:52,209 okay I can't say that that's genuine 2137 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:54,070 that's not but the thing is is that in 2138 01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:55,570 these knocking actually admits to having 2139 01:39:58,949 --> 01:39:57,489 stolen them and thought he copied them 2140 01:40:01,979 --> 01:39:58,959 so they're not genuine they're not the 2141 01:40:03,509 --> 01:40:01,989 originals but both the copies anyway 2142 01:40:05,370 --> 01:40:03,519 because he first two copied them and 2143 01:40:07,409 --> 01:40:05,380 stole them so can you trust somebody 2144 01:40:17,339 --> 01:40:07,419 who's a thief he stolen what as he 2145 01:40:21,659 --> 01:40:17,349 stolen and yes quite secure yeah they 2146 01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:21,669 put your social security clearance up so 2147 01:40:30,779 --> 01:40:28,449 he's also stealing some well and he was 2148 01:40:33,149 --> 01:40:30,789 getting out on the separation or 2149 01:40:36,169 --> 01:40:33,159 whatever but they put him in the 2150 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:36,179 warehouse they put him on Ziggler's gang 2151 01:40:41,969 --> 01:40:39,610 he said that he was in an office doing 2152 01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:41,979 some office work and that's how he ended 2153 01:40:47,009 --> 01:40:44,169 up being able to come across his own 2154 01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:47,019 documents get them out first to copy 2155 01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:52,630 them and you know and basically walk off 2156 01:40:57,540 --> 01:40:55,840 base with them he's got all the fake 2157 01:40:59,609 --> 01:40:57,550 photographs that he said over the years 2158 01:41:02,790 --> 01:40:59,619 that he said that you had that there's 2159 01:41:05,069 --> 01:41:02,800 photographs Amman of the incidents at 2160 01:41:07,319 --> 01:41:05,079 Rendlesham from an accountant called 2161 01:41:09,659 --> 01:41:07,329 Mike who was a civilian didn't want to 2162 01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:09,669 be known he sent them to Georgina brunet 2163 01:41:14,759 --> 01:41:12,070 who accepted them she was quite excited 2164 01:41:18,299 --> 01:41:14,769 about them for a week later to ring her 2165 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:18,309 up and say actually I took those and I 2166 01:41:25,379 --> 01:41:22,090 got he smuggled them out of a Germans in 2167 01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:25,389 a German Stein that he got when he went 2168 01:41:30,569 --> 01:41:28,510 to Germany that Christmas weekend he got 2169 01:41:33,889 --> 01:41:30,579 back from Germany went straight answer 2170 01:41:36,569 --> 01:41:33,899 duty and then the uf first have happened 2171 01:41:38,850 --> 01:41:36,579 that's in one version the other version 2172 01:41:41,489 --> 01:41:38,860 is that he was actually in Ipswich and 2173 01:41:44,429 --> 01:41:41,499 he's gone to acts records to haggle over 2174 01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:44,439 an amp on a Sunday when he was shot and 2175 01:41:50,009 --> 01:41:47,199 then now it's a case of on the way back 2176 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:50,019 from that trip to its which was when he 2177 01:41:53,850 --> 01:41:51,610 took the photograph and took me a 2178 01:41:58,049 --> 01:41:53,860 photograph of the a-10 and didn't know 2179 01:42:01,439 --> 01:41:58,059 that there was a UFO in the picture but 2180 01:42:04,109 --> 01:42:01,449 actually in Barry Greenwood records that 2181 01:42:07,770 --> 01:42:04,119 Larry gave him and he he 2182 01:42:11,220 --> 01:42:07,780 scans of that photograph of the ATM was 2183 01:42:12,510 --> 01:42:11,230 taken in 1985 when he went to when he 2184 01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:12,520 came to England with his first wife 2185 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:14,710 Cindy and he was on their honeymoon so 2186 01:42:19,979 --> 01:42:18,610 he took it in 1985 and now it's and it 2187 01:42:23,939 --> 01:42:19,989 was a collar photograph and now it's 2188 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:23,949 black and white and was taken in 1982 it 2189 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:25,810 was a bit of an issue that you see 2190 01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:27,730 leaves on the tree who has been taking a 2191 01:42:33,870 --> 01:42:31,780 December yeah the foliage in the 2192 01:42:36,570 --> 01:42:33,880 foreground wouldn't it would have been 2193 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,580 much more sparse than it was and the 2194 01:42:42,180 --> 01:42:38,080 tree in the background wasn't have had 2195 01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:42,190 any leaves on it at all so you know 2196 01:42:51,229 --> 01:42:46,480 there are very very many lies about his 2197 01:42:56,689 --> 01:42:51,239 service it's not just the memorabilia 2198 01:43:01,770 --> 01:42:59,430 which is not just an assumption is it we 2199 01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:01,780 can actually prove this been fake 2200 01:43:07,050 --> 01:43:04,000 memorabilia even Peter Robbins has been 2201 01:43:11,330 --> 01:43:07,060 a victim of it what was it about nine 2202 01:43:18,839 --> 01:43:11,340 months ago wasn't it when the fates his 2203 01:43:21,149 --> 01:43:18,849 sisters on a flyer that you given Warren 2204 01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:21,159 which was blank at the time and all 2205 01:43:27,629 --> 01:43:22,840 sorts of other names appeared on it was 2206 01:43:29,399 --> 01:43:27,639 it one of them Katharine Hepburn which I 2207 01:43:30,899 --> 01:43:29,409 think she was about 85 at the time she 2208 01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:30,909 would have been at an event like there 2209 01:43:45,689 --> 01:43:35,110 anyway there was I can't remember all 2210 01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:45,699 that you know but it was told us that I 2211 01:43:50,490 --> 01:43:47,920 didn't actually realise that they were 2212 01:43:52,169 --> 01:43:50,500 his I found them in an auction put them 2213 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:52,179 out online said look he's dead he's at 2214 01:43:55,979 --> 01:43:52,690 it again 2215 01:43:58,290 --> 01:43:55,989 Peter saw them and was like I gave him 2216 01:44:02,040 --> 01:43:58,300 those and there was nothing on them 2217 01:44:03,660 --> 01:44:02,050 other than a stamp of authenticity to 2218 01:44:05,970 --> 01:44:03,670 say that they came from the estate of 2219 01:44:08,490 --> 01:44:05,980 Helen wheels with Peter Robbins sister 2220 01:44:11,729 --> 01:44:08,500 the steel wheels was her band very 2221 01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:11,739 famous in New York in the 80s and he 2222 01:44:16,609 --> 01:44:13,840 reckons it he was on tar with her well 2223 01:44:18,979 --> 01:44:16,619 she never did a tar and 2224 01:44:20,810 --> 01:44:18,989 yeah he tried to sell these Flyers that 2225 01:44:22,490 --> 01:44:20,820 Petrie given him that were blanked but 2226 01:44:23,570 --> 01:44:22,500 they were covered in signatures when he 2227 01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:23,580 put them in the auction 2228 01:44:29,089 --> 01:44:26,730 so there's proof there is faked it then 2229 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:29,099 there's a Jerry I've got I've actually 2230 01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:35,720 it says I see yet one more thing I gave 2231 01:44:40,729 --> 01:44:38,310 Larry because I knew he likes such bits 2232 01:44:43,370 --> 01:44:40,739 of memorabilia and once again that my 2233 01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:43,380 sister never never signed know a 2234 01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:45,090 significant details that she never 2235 01:44:49,370 --> 01:44:47,369 underlined the ginger in any case that 2236 01:44:51,229 --> 01:44:49,380 was that I was ever aware you are 2237 01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:51,239 welcome to share comments and responses 2238 01:44:56,089 --> 01:44:53,520 to this matter I gave him that 2239 01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:56,099 invitation and it was not signed by 2240 01:45:00,740 --> 01:44:58,080 anyone when I gave it to him period 2241 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:00,750 and neither Warhol nor HIPPA attended 2242 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:03,570 that event I know I am seeded a little 2243 01:45:08,570 --> 01:45:06,690 shy and what a shame these businesses 2244 01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:08,580 could care less about such things and 2245 01:45:12,140 --> 01:45:10,560 nothing comes up when he says about the 2246 01:45:14,089 --> 01:45:12,150 he couldn't find it when he talked to 2247 01:45:16,910 --> 01:45:14,099 the lot number but it just shows you how 2248 01:45:19,370 --> 01:45:16,920 a shows you and I've got a picture of it 2249 01:45:23,030 --> 01:45:19,380 here he's got at the top he's got Andy 2250 01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:23,040 Warhol it's also with their cables 2251 01:45:31,010 --> 01:45:26,880 Soutine on there it's and I think what 2252 01:45:34,010 --> 01:45:31,020 was it going for I got 2,000 2,000 to 2253 01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:34,020 4,000 pounds on whether it was actually 2254 01:45:43,580 --> 01:45:41,040 sold on top of all these options and I 2255 01:45:45,890 --> 01:45:43,590 know people were looking at them all the 2256 01:45:48,260 --> 01:45:45,900 time and we kept finding stuff then 2257 01:45:50,359 --> 01:45:48,270 there was the leather jacket at John 2258 01:45:51,649 --> 01:45:50,369 Lennon's and they smoking jacket of Jimi 2259 01:45:55,790 --> 01:45:51,659 Hendrix and the ring of Jimi Hendrix 2260 01:45:58,490 --> 01:45:55,800 right so it was my mom my mom said Sasha 2261 01:46:00,080 --> 01:45:58,500 you need to watch BBC News tonight 2262 01:46:01,700 --> 01:46:00,090 there's a piece on it about an auction 2263 01:46:03,290 --> 01:46:01,710 in Scarborough and it's got all these 2264 01:46:05,589 --> 01:46:03,300 John Wayne stuff and all this you know 2265 01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:05,599 Jimi Hendrix painting blah blah blah and 2266 01:46:09,470 --> 01:46:08,070 so I thought oh wait what we got you 2267 01:46:14,540 --> 01:46:09,480 don't mean anyway I looked it was like 2268 01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:14,550 holy [\h__\h] it's all that stuff he said so 2269 01:46:18,169 --> 01:46:16,170 it got I got in touch with the auction 2270 01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:18,179 house it was Rydal auctions and I told 2271 01:46:21,470 --> 01:46:20,159 them and I put it all over the face book 2272 01:46:22,669 --> 01:46:21,480 pro so they couldn't ignore me and 2273 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:22,679 that's why I kept doing with all these 2274 01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:25,130 auctions they kept sabotaging them now 2275 01:46:29,839 --> 01:46:27,690 and we kept Sherry them did we so make 2276 01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:29,849 sure you got 2277 01:46:35,689 --> 01:46:33,119 traffic people were looking at it so you 2278 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:35,699 know kept sabotaging these options and 2279 01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:37,290 the last one when the jacket went for 2280 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:41,489 15,000 the pin I don't know I think it 2281 01:46:44,419 --> 01:46:44,130 holds 36,000 pounds or something like 2282 01:46:51,770 --> 01:46:44,429 that 2283 01:46:53,450 --> 01:46:51,780 auctioneer had said there are some 2284 01:46:56,030 --> 01:46:53,460 issues surrounding this if you've seen 2285 01:46:58,520 --> 01:46:56,040 our Facebook page so you've got a month 2286 01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:58,530 to check it over and decide whether you 2287 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:00,239 want to shell out for it or not whether 2288 01:47:06,050 --> 01:47:03,690 it's genuine or not so the Jimi Hendrix 2289 01:47:07,609 --> 01:47:06,060 community will laughing at this jacket 2290 01:47:10,069 --> 01:47:07,619 saying he'd have been better off flying 2291 01:47:12,530 --> 01:47:10,079 in to say that he belongs to Oscar Wilde 2292 01:47:14,689 --> 01:47:12,540 because Jimmy never wore a jacket like 2293 01:47:17,450 --> 01:47:14,699 that he did have a black suede a black 2294 01:47:20,419 --> 01:47:17,460 velvet jacket but it was not a smoking 2295 01:47:22,220 --> 01:47:20,429 jacket and it was tailored so I got sent 2296 01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:22,230 some pictures of Anna leather jacket of 2297 01:47:26,689 --> 01:47:25,170 John Lennon's and this sweat and that's 2298 01:47:29,660 --> 01:47:26,699 where Tommy keeps saying that done I 2299 01:47:31,700 --> 01:47:29,670 velvet black Jimi Hendrix jacket so I 2300 01:47:33,319 --> 01:47:31,710 jumped on this said I'm really really 2301 01:47:36,050 --> 01:47:33,329 sorry to have to infer me but I do think 2302 01:47:39,260 --> 01:47:36,060 these items are not genuine and these 2303 01:47:42,260 --> 01:47:39,270 are my reasons why and I got looking 2304 01:47:43,370 --> 01:47:42,270 back and where did you get the 2305 01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:43,380 information properly it was these 2306 01:47:46,370 --> 01:47:44,489 jackets and they sent me these 2307 01:47:47,899 --> 01:47:46,380 photographs and I was like oh my god 2308 01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,909 it's not them jackets it's not the same 2309 01:47:51,589 --> 01:47:49,679 thing so I wrote back and I said ah I 2310 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:51,599 said now I know where he's got the idea 2311 01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:54,210 of these items from because it's a 2312 01:47:59,419 --> 01:47:55,760 leather jacket just like that and a 2313 01:48:02,120 --> 01:47:59,429 velvet black jacket similar to this so I 2314 01:48:05,540 --> 01:48:02,130 said really apologize I can't apologize 2315 01:48:07,850 --> 01:48:05,550 enough but these are my reasons and I 2316 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:07,860 sent him the documents that compiled of 2317 01:48:11,330 --> 01:48:09,690 all these sales activity and the thing 2318 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:11,340 the items that I knew that he had and 2319 01:48:14,660 --> 01:48:13,170 things that he put through action that 2320 01:48:17,810 --> 01:48:14,670 didn't sell and all of this stuff is 2321 01:48:20,419 --> 01:48:17,820 online so I thought oh my god I'm an 2322 01:48:23,930 --> 01:48:20,429 idiot because every time I stopped an 2323 01:48:27,530 --> 01:48:23,940 auction I'm stopping a crime so sell 2324 01:48:30,260 --> 01:48:27,540 away sell sell sell yes you like because 2325 01:48:32,330 --> 01:48:30,270 I'm hoping one day this is gonna get on 2326 01:48:33,859 --> 01:48:32,340 top a victim will come forward yeah 2327 01:48:34,669 --> 01:48:33,869 because it's only a victim that can come 2328 01:48:39,709 --> 01:48:34,679 forward isn't it 2329 01:48:41,780 --> 01:48:39,719 the police are not interested of sale 2330 01:48:43,190 --> 01:48:41,790 they need a sale but not only a sale 2331 01:48:45,410 --> 01:48:43,200 they need the person 2332 01:48:48,770 --> 01:48:45,420 who's bought the item to know that they 2333 01:48:49,930 --> 01:48:48,780 bought a lemon and then to report it to 2334 01:48:54,770 --> 01:48:49,940 the police 2335 01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:54,780 so when Gary goes he's not a con man con 2336 01:48:57,500 --> 01:48:57,090 man means convicted no Gary you big 2337 01:48:59,930 --> 01:48:57,510 idiot 2338 01:49:03,320 --> 01:48:59,940 it actually means confidence trickster 2339 01:49:06,890 --> 01:49:03,330 confidence man you know what honey you 2340 01:49:10,820 --> 01:49:06,900 are mr. police officer when you don't 2341 01:49:12,710 --> 01:49:10,830 even know con man is confidence man the 2342 01:49:16,150 --> 01:49:12,720 confident they're so confident you 2343 01:49:19,820 --> 01:49:16,160 believe what they say and have my money 2344 01:49:21,790 --> 01:49:19,830 and this fall for a little think about 2345 01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:21,800 the sound of it no there's been no 2346 01:49:26,270 --> 01:49:24,930 police prosecution because all those 2347 01:49:29,780 --> 01:49:26,280 people that have invested that money 2348 01:49:32,210 --> 01:49:29,790 into you know all right I just keep 2349 01:49:33,770 --> 01:49:32,220 thinking somebody like you know Dave he 2350 01:49:37,190 --> 01:49:33,780 had a few items that were worth a bit of 2351 01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:37,200 money which he wanted to sell when we 2352 01:49:40,970 --> 01:49:38,730 were in trouble which he didn't in the 2353 01:49:43,370 --> 01:49:40,980 end but you know he was considering it 2354 01:49:45,290 --> 01:49:43,380 so I was thinking oh my god 2355 01:49:47,690 --> 01:49:45,300 right because they weren't it worth 2356 01:49:49,220 --> 01:49:47,700 enough for it to get us out of the 2357 01:49:50,510 --> 01:49:49,230 situation where it's what it's like well 2358 01:49:54,860 --> 01:49:50,520 you might as well keep them then you 2359 01:49:57,380 --> 01:49:54,870 know so I keep thinking well oh my god 2360 01:49:59,780 --> 01:49:57,390 right imagine if these items were worth 2361 01:50:01,490 --> 01:49:59,790 like ten thousand pounds each that was 2362 01:50:05,420 --> 01:50:01,500 enough to get us out of trouble now we 2363 01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:05,430 go sell these things so you know all 2364 01:50:09,410 --> 01:50:06,960 right we'll take a loss might get eight 2365 01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:09,420 for each nice sixteen thousand that 2366 01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:11,010 would solve our problems right we could 2367 01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:12,510 get out of this hole that we're in I 2368 01:50:17,060 --> 01:50:14,970 just keep thinking there's somebody 2369 01:50:18,890 --> 01:50:17,070 somewhere as paid fifteen thousand 2370 01:50:20,150 --> 01:50:18,900 pounds to repenting or eight thousand 2371 01:50:23,780 --> 01:50:20,160 pounds for a painting that the think is 2372 01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:23,790 by Jerry Garcia or Bob Dylan or whoever 2373 01:50:30,410 --> 01:50:27,690 Jimi Hendrix right and it's not it's not 2374 01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:30,420 at all and what you know and the police 2375 01:50:34,610 --> 01:50:31,920 said to me don't take it so personally 2376 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:34,620 it's like are you mad there's people out 2377 01:50:40,010 --> 01:50:37,770 there buying things for people for 2378 01:50:42,710 --> 01:50:40,020 themselves rainy day I've got a bit of 2379 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:42,720 money invest it let's invest in some 2380 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:46,890 stuff and that's what people do I think 2381 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:48,930 the travel you said sure this ain't war 2382 01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:51,210 just one of them the trouble is there's 2383 01:50:55,730 --> 01:50:54,210 so many forces out there as you know if 2384 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:55,740 you read the book yeah you read the book 2385 01:50:59,640 --> 01:50:56,530 didn't you 2386 01:51:00,840 --> 01:50:59,650 operational paneled oppression ball pain 2387 01:51:04,850 --> 01:51:00,850 you've only got to read there to realize 2388 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:04,860 how much stuff is out there there's fake 2389 01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:14,410 only so wouldn't buy anything on ebay on 2390 01:51:18,630 --> 01:51:16,210 this you can actually see something 2391 01:51:21,570 --> 01:51:18,640 being signed in front of ya if you're 2392 01:51:31,290 --> 01:51:21,580 buying something signed up of ebay be 2393 01:51:32,970 --> 01:51:31,300 very careful anyone to read operation 2394 01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:32,980 ball P because all the pulling away by I 2395 01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:36,040 thought I just didn't understand how and 2396 01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,910 now you see because I remembered warrant 2397 01:51:44,250 --> 01:51:41,440 telling me that he did not so far just 2398 01:51:46,050 --> 01:51:44,260 in New York but they got busted so I 2399 01:51:48,210 --> 01:51:46,060 kind of did a little Google search it 2400 01:51:50,190 --> 01:51:48,220 came up operation brawl pan and he told 2401 01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:50,200 me he told me that he used to sell 2402 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:51,880 beanie babies and breasts ball cards in 2403 01:51:57,450 --> 01:51:53,170 New York when he split up with his wife 2404 01:52:01,710 --> 01:51:57,460 Cindy in my you know and mid-90s early 2405 01:52:04,050 --> 01:52:01,720 early 90s and and when I was reading 2406 01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:04,060 that operation bullpen does this guy 2407 01:52:07,500 --> 01:52:06,250 know whose name has been hidden disease 2408 01:52:10,740 --> 01:52:07,510 the LA the blabbermouth 2409 01:52:12,810 --> 01:52:10,750 and he's cognate and he saw beanie 2410 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:12,820 babies on baseball cards in New York I 2411 01:52:16,650 --> 01:52:15,250 knew this guy Wayne who get Laurie said 2412 01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:16,660 he knew and he said that in you this 2413 01:52:20,070 --> 01:52:18,610 guy's done the man and I was like oh my 2414 01:52:21,540 --> 01:52:20,080 friend's dog skull Stan the man 2415 01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:21,550 so I remember that and I remember 2416 01:52:26,700 --> 01:52:24,490 telling Colonel halt something going on 2417 01:52:28,350 --> 01:52:26,710 in this and I think he's something to do 2418 01:52:30,180 --> 01:52:28,360 with it I said I keep thinking that I 2419 01:52:33,330 --> 01:52:30,190 can't get them there Mickey Rooney out 2420 01:52:37,590 --> 01:52:33,340 of my head in it and when I you know 2421 01:52:41,070 --> 01:52:37,600 found the the files on the bust 2422 01:52:43,050 --> 01:52:41,080 the guy's name was Mickey and Reena so I 2423 01:52:45,540 --> 01:52:43,060 was nearly right I did you know I got 2424 01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:45,550 this incredible brain that needs a bit 2425 01:52:50,370 --> 01:52:48,490 poking sometimes it's in there I'll come 2426 01:52:54,030 --> 01:52:50,380 back up to there and I was like that's 2427 01:52:55,890 --> 01:52:54,040 it so he's either don't worry it's done 2428 01:52:57,450 --> 01:52:55,900 with everything else with these security 2429 01:53:02,850 --> 01:52:57,460 guard stories which he's got from 2430 01:53:07,290 --> 01:53:02,860 biographies and he's absorbed this song 2431 01:53:07,290 --> 01:53:07,300 he is named in ether grass and 2432 01:53:14,260 --> 01:53:10,990 you know and and that is when he sold 2433 01:53:15,700 --> 01:53:14,270 that guitar in New York that he said the 2434 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:15,710 Stevie Ray Vaughan's that used to belong 2435 01:53:20,110 --> 01:53:17,810 to Jimi Hendrix or something it's not 2436 01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:20,120 about 10 different provenances now so 2437 01:53:25,890 --> 01:53:22,850 that was sold in 1995 and that's to be 2438 01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:25,900 refunded because it was proven to be 2439 01:53:32,740 --> 01:53:29,210 they've never been anywhere near see the 2440 01:53:44,170 --> 01:53:32,750 Ray Vaughn was wrong so you know that 2441 01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:44,180 money or something and it was it was a 2442 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:51,440 Jimi Hendrix and Noel Redding as well 2443 01:53:57,700 --> 01:53:55,850 that was spelt wrong way if you want to 2444 01:54:02,050 --> 01:53:57,710 read any of it right I will say to you 2445 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:02,060 right if you read start in his eyes the 2446 01:54:08,050 --> 01:54:03,530 adventures of Larry Warren and the 2447 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:08,060 doctored photographs if you read John 2448 01:54:16,050 --> 01:54:09,890 Lennon mystery the sketch mystery is 2449 01:54:18,610 --> 01:54:16,060 over if you read my blog which I was 2450 01:54:20,740 --> 01:54:18,620 Peter Robbins splits with Larry Warren 2451 01:54:22,300 --> 01:54:20,750 it's official that's got some good stuff 2452 01:54:23,950 --> 01:54:22,310 as what should we add to look at that 2453 01:54:26,380 --> 01:54:23,960 sedan do you realize that I'd put this 2454 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:26,390 much into it and you can get LP you can 2455 01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:32,090 get old piece of Peters statements as 2456 01:54:38,890 --> 01:54:36,080 well and there are those P P Robbins NY 2457 01:54:41,470 --> 01:54:38,900 I think that's his blog isn't it Robins 2458 01:54:43,870 --> 01:54:41,480 New York no so you can read Peter 2459 01:54:47,470 --> 01:54:43,880 statement on there I actually wrote an 2460 01:54:49,650 --> 01:54:47,480 open letter to Peter which changed quite 2461 01:54:52,180 --> 01:54:49,660 a few things as well 2462 01:54:53,620 --> 01:54:52,190 yeah there's there's just lots out there 2463 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:53,630 if he and they open letter to go 2464 01:54:59,200 --> 01:54:55,610 rehearsals and all the video clips Oh 2465 01:55:00,750 --> 01:54:59,210 Mary Warren lion is excited off 2466 01:55:03,460 --> 01:55:00,760 basically and telling different stories 2467 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:03,470 I mean even if you do not read a single 2468 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:05,930 word that I put in that blog and you 2469 01:55:15,220 --> 01:55:12,050 just watch the clips because I put a lot 2470 01:55:17,470 --> 01:55:15,230 into it but I do go on about it because 2471 01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:17,480 it can't be a bunny boiler for god sakes 2472 01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:19,280 I'm like arson saying this about me are 2473 01:55:21,490 --> 01:55:20,000 you going 2474 01:55:23,890 --> 01:55:21,500 what about this then and what about that 2475 01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:23,900 then so you know even if you if you 2476 01:55:28,150 --> 01:55:25,520 don't want to read all that kind of 2477 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:28,160 personal stuff personal it's just 2478 01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:31,850 factual then just watch the clips just 2479 01:55:35,590 --> 01:55:33,410 watch and listen to the clips you don't 2480 01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:35,600 have to go into like every single blog 2481 01:55:41,260 --> 01:55:37,520 if you want to know that Larry Warren 2482 01:55:43,210 --> 01:55:41,270 Lanny's just go to that last one open 2483 01:55:45,820 --> 01:55:43,220 letter to Gary Heseltine and just listen 2484 01:55:47,770 --> 01:55:45,830 to the clips and you will absolutely see 2485 01:55:52,810 --> 01:55:47,780 what I'm saying without even reading a 2486 01:55:54,910 --> 01:55:52,820 word that I said another one just come 2487 01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:54,920 to mind on the second night he was in a 2488 01:56:00,580 --> 01:55:57,410 know we've got a version from the 2489 01:56:02,140 --> 01:56:00,590 finally conference where he was in an 2490 01:56:03,850 --> 01:56:02,150 office on the second night and that 2491 01:56:09,250 --> 01:56:03,860 bonny champion came into the office 2492 01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:09,260 shaken shaken up he was guys for a 2493 01:56:21,550 --> 01:56:18,710 fallen cabinet so yeah let me just recap 2494 01:56:23,980 --> 01:56:21,560 now so they the read Michelle that you 2495 01:56:26,020 --> 01:56:23,990 want to listen to so here they're doing 2496 01:56:28,660 --> 01:56:26,030 in Boston's assay his own event is 2497 01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:28,670 Adrian Boston's a full radio interview 2498 01:56:34,620 --> 01:56:31,610 on the Rendlesham forest incident and 2499 01:56:37,780 --> 01:56:34,630 it's Rodney McKay is channel on YouTube 2500 01:56:39,790 --> 01:56:37,790 because over the next couple of weeks I 2501 01:56:44,020 --> 01:56:39,800 wanted to get all this out and just give 2502 01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:44,030 you an idea of the mess that this is you 2503 01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:45,650 know talk to David because David has 2504 01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:47,930 been the best friend anybody put out 2505 01:56:51,100 --> 01:56:49,730 throughout all of this and we aren't 2506 01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:51,110 always seen eye-to-eye but we've always 2507 01:57:01,330 --> 01:56:58,750 you've kept it all alive 2508 01:57:03,310 --> 01:57:01,340 well I second a break because I couldn't 2509 01:57:05,260 --> 01:57:03,320 continue I have to separate myself from 2510 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:05,270 it I know it's to give everybody else a 2511 01:57:10,300 --> 01:57:08,450 break alright alright is a lie oh we 2512 01:57:14,050 --> 01:57:10,310 know right okay but not everybody knows 2513 01:57:16,230 --> 01:57:14,060 and that's wrong so now I've got some 2514 01:57:18,610 --> 01:57:16,240 evidence and is absolutely irrefutable 2515 01:57:19,810 --> 01:57:18,620 I'm not gonna say what and I'm not gonna 2516 01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:19,820 say where it's come from I'm not gonna 2517 01:57:24,460 --> 01:57:22,010 say anything because I want it to be a 2518 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:24,470 complete surprise which it's going to be 2519 01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:26,330 I don't know if it'll be next week on 2520 01:57:32,710 --> 01:57:28,730 week after but it is yeah even I don't 2521 01:57:33,730 --> 01:57:32,720 know nobody knows because that's just 2522 01:57:36,580 --> 01:57:33,740 the way it's up to be 2523 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:36,590 and you know I keep my promises so 2524 01:57:43,090 --> 01:57:39,050 nobody knows right from me and one other 2525 01:57:45,550 --> 01:57:43,100 person and then me and that other person 2526 01:57:49,210 --> 01:57:45,560 are gonna be talking about all of this 2527 01:57:50,740 --> 01:57:49,220 and the evidence and I'm gonna have to 2528 01:57:53,500 --> 01:57:50,750 leave it there unfortunately I can't 2529 01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:53,510 even believe that you know it's flown by 2530 01:57:57,850 --> 01:57:56,480 again I knew it would I hope we haven't 2531 01:57:59,620 --> 01:57:57,860 jumped about too much I hope we haven't 2532 01:58:01,840 --> 01:57:59,630 been sealed confusing it is very 2533 01:58:03,460 --> 01:58:01,850 difficult even with notes in front of me 2534 01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:03,470 to stay and keep everything in order 2535 01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:05,690 because there's just so much of it and 2536 01:58:10,510 --> 01:58:08,450 and and it all ties into other stuff 2537 01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:10,520 it's just like one big ball and I'll 2538 01:58:15,310 --> 01:58:12,560 we've done is shown you like one 2539 01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:15,320 quadrant of the ball so there's the 2540 01:58:19,740 --> 01:58:17,690 entire whole story that needs to be told 2541 01:58:21,820 --> 01:58:19,750 which it will be when I write the book 2542 01:58:23,290 --> 01:58:21,830 you know I'm not it's not finished 2543 01:58:27,780 --> 01:58:23,300 because it can't be finished because 2544 01:58:29,890 --> 01:58:27,790 this is still unfolding and you know 2545 01:58:32,290 --> 01:58:29,900 after all shall I leave it till after 2546 01:58:35,500 --> 01:58:32,300 the film but I thought no I'll just kind 2547 01:58:36,850 --> 01:58:35,510 of do a recap after the film so I'm 2548 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:36,860 really I'm going to get it out of my 2549 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:41,650 life now they say they said new evidence 2550 01:58:50,020 --> 01:58:43,850 can't be argued with I'm sure they'll 2551 01:58:52,390 --> 01:58:50,030 find ways so idea with it yes lady doth 2552 01:58:53,740 --> 01:58:52,400 protest too much so thank you for coming 2553 01:59:03,550 --> 01:58:53,750 on David I know you're not feeling very 2554 01:59:13,330 --> 01:59:03,560 well I've come back I've been ill for 2555 01:59:15,460 --> 01:59:13,340 the last three or four days got 2556 01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:15,470 something going on is the time for now 2557 01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:19,970 revised but thanks for listening 2558 01:59:27,250 --> 01:59:24,890 everybody and yet if you just check out 2559 01:59:32,110 --> 01:59:27,260 my blog sasha christie in four main e AK 2560 01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:32,120 housewife that in not nymph you won't 2561 01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:34,250 believe the key search fees that i get i 2562 01:59:41,740 --> 01:59:35,810 read you know and they blog and people 2563 01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:41,750 have searched it sort of mistaken 2564 01:59:46,210 --> 01:59:43,940 entries like be looking for something 2565 01:59:46,930 --> 01:59:46,220 else and found me like hey where were 2566 01:59:50,470 --> 01:59:46,940 the booths 2567 01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:50,480 but okay I'm gonna leave it at that